The Rundown (2003)

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MATT:

Hello, and welcome to Load Bearing Beams. This is the Summer of Rock. Wow. We’re so happy to be here. So happy to be joined by you.

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LACI:

And you.

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MATT:

And you and you and you and the millions—and millions—of the Load Bearing Beams fans. 

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LACI:

And smell what the Matt is cooking.

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MATT:

I’m Matt.

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LACI:

I’m bad at that. I’m lazy.

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MATT:

And we’re married. Got married 12 years ago. Things have been rough on us lately. Every day I’m like, is this the end of our podcast?

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LACI:

Every summer we say the same thoughts out loud to each other. Is this the end? Is this it?

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MATT:

Is this it?

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LACI:

Is this our lives?

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MATT:

As The Strokes once said: “Is this it?” And we don’t know if we’re going to make it.

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LACI:

It might be worse. It’s probably going to get worse.

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MATT:

Yeah.

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LACI:

We’re… This is probably the good stuff. We’re pissing it away.

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MATT:

Yeah. This summer sucks shit for us. And, we’re self-employed. We got a lot of shit going on. And we also have a podcast, and we make it more fun by doing a mini series. So we’re covering the films of Dwayne Johnson in chronological order to try to chart the rise in the fall. And I think this movie we’re covering this week, The Rundown, it is like it’s probably the apex, right?

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LACI:

Their second movie sucks, man, because all of this so far, I’m just seeing the rise, baby.

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MATT:

And I was not sure what you would think of this movie along with Scorpion King, because we watched them separately.

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LACI:

When arcade got really Indiana Jones, then we were in that Indiana Jones movies, and then you suggested we go to The Mummy. Sure. That was perfectly fine. This is what I wanted. This in Lake Placid.

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MATT:

Lake Placid.

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LACI:

All right, buddy, comedy shooting with trees.

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MATT:

Well, this this movie, it has adventure movie elements to it. Less than I remembered. In some ways, it is kind of just a throwback 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, but with some injection of some Indiana Jones, some romancing the Stone. Sure, some like buddy comedy, but if we’re following the Rock, is doing Arnold Schwarzenegger’s career. But in the 2000s, like, Arnold Schwarzenegger does Conan the Barbarian in the ‘80s.

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MATT:

So the Rock does The Scorpion King. Well, Arnold Schwarzenegger does Commando, and this movie is like Commando in a lot of ways.

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LACI:

Is he a mercenary? Yeah, a getter.

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MATT:

He’s a getter, no, he’s just like the world’s biggest badass. And his daughter gets kidnaped. Okay, so he takes to. Okay, but he has to go, like, to, to a fortress island where he’s outnumbered 1000 to 1 and he does it. But the key thing is that movie’s actually Arnold Schwarzenegger’s first, like, kind of lighthearted movie, even though it’s very violent and stuff.

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MATT:

He has lots of quips and stuff in it, and that’s the that’s the vibe of this movie. So he’s really going for and this is the movie where he literally has Arnold Schwarzenegger in the face off, handing the torch to him. Yeah, fun baby.

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LACI:

Yeah. I didn’t see Commando, so.

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MATT:

But you liked this movie. I was very.

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LACI:

I really.

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MATT:

Liked it. We watched it separately, and, you know.

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LACI:

I gave it four stars.

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MATT:

I know I saw that, and I. I love action movies. And Lacey will sometimes say stupid stuff like, I don’t care about action. I just like story.

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LACI:

True. I like action when it’s good, when I can follow it. This movie had awesome fucking action that that is a really. It combined comedy and action and heart in a perfect little stand.

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MATT:

Which yeah.

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LACI:

I thought.

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MATT:

Yeah. And so when I read your Letterboxd review, my heart, my heart soul did it because I had such a fun time with this movie, which I had not seen since I saw it in the movie theater in 2003, when I remember thinking like, that’s pretty good, and.

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LACI:

Paul Walker Anderson, help me.

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MATT:

Scott, Sean, William Scott.

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LACI:

Never going to get it. I don’t think I’ve ever liked more. I think they give him so much to do. I think his personality is just enough goofy, sincere, sure and smart. He’s smart. He gets to be smartness.

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MATT:

Gets to be smart. He’s. And he’s had a lot of work. He has had a long career. He’s mainly in television, does a lot of network television for him. He was in the Lethal Weapon network television.

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LACI:

Be a doctor. I’m just kidding.

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MATT:

I don’t get it. I don’t either. All right, well, they need a Lethal Weapon television show on Fox that he was on. Now he’s on the Tim Allen Show. Shifting gears. So he’s making a lot of money. But here, I feel like you see the path not taken by both the Rock and Sean William Scott. Yes.

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LACI:

Sean Williams has leading man potential, as proven in this movie.

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MATT:

Because he’s funny, but he can be serious and and hot. Yeah, he can.

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LACI:

And I never find him hot. I thought he was fucking. Swash was suave as shit in his fumbling way. Good. He switches it up a seamlessly in this.

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MATT:

Movie and the occasional times in this movie where, you know, he’s fighting with the Rock. Like, how is he going to get the upper hand on the rock? He does it a couple of times and you can actually buy it. Yep, yep. So this movie rules and it just sucks that this movie was both made at a time where movies like this don’t, aren’t appreciated anymore, because the industry is changing drastically.

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LACI:

What else came out around this? It was this. The summer movie feels like a summer movie.

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MATT:

I think it was a fall movie. I remember seeing.

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LACI:

It. Oh, that’s rough man. That’s when everyone’s putting all their Oscar bait.

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MATT:

I remember seeing it. I think it was the for. Oh, okay. I think this was the first movie I drove myself to. Oh, fun. I got a driver’s license. Well, I invited a male friend and he sat with a seat between us. What? I remember being, like, a little like, oh, okay.

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LACI:

No, that’s. That is wild.

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MATT:

Yeah. Because I bet, you know, I’ve been to lots of movies with male friends. Never was like, dude, I don’t want people to think again.

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LACI:

I would instantly go, I smell. That’s what I would think. Or like. He maybe he just really doesn’t like talking during a movie. And that’s the only way to send the signal.

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MATT:

But I get it too. But no, I think it was just like a this is what guys do. We don’t sit close to each other.

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LACI:

Oh, he has a toxic, male parent, I can tell you that.

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MATT:

So that was my experience. And I remember thinking the movie was. You don’t know? Don’t worry about it. Yeah, I don’t, I actually don’t even remember his name. He lived he lives in my neighborhood. I gave him a ride.

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LACI:

Home for a friend. Say it. Sorry.

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MATT:

Killed he. No, it was not. No, no.

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LACI:

I said neighborhood bullshit, friend. Did I acknowledging. No.

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MATT:

This was this was a terrible thing. Where because I could drive and he lived in my neighborhood, he’s like, hey, could you give me a ride home alone? And so I was giving him a ride home every day and little to say to him every day.

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LACI:

Anyone that would ask a favor, let alone a daily favor. Red fucking flag. Don’t ask favors.

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MATT:

And I remember the first day of the next year. I just kind of like, ducked behind bushes whenever I would see him. So he never had the chance.

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LACI:

With your car, you’re.

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MATT:

Yeah. Anyway, I remember I remember thinking this was a pretty fun movie, and whenever I would think back on the rocks early career, I would think, oh, the rundown was fun, but not remembering much about it. Although watching it now, I remember. Oh, that’s where the Christopher Walken like, just let him go nuts. And I thought.

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LACI:

You’d be right.

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MATT:

Well, this is the time. I think it works.

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LACI:

But I don’t find him nuts at all. That’s what, like I think. I think Christopher Walken perfectly fits in this fucking world. He’s not even weird. And they pair them with the fucking evil guy from The White Lotus. I love it, I, I don’t think he’s even doing his biggest, like, like, vocal tics. He’s just talking.

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MATT:

He’s not. But when he gives this tooth fairy speech, which is the part of the movie I remember the most, it’s so great. You could tell that is like the like this is this is going to be our moment from this movie. This is our Christopher Walken moment. And it’s great.

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LACI:

It’s great. But it’s not.

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MATT:

That I feel like my toes has been taken.

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LACI:

Oh, you just don’t let your horny over there.

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MATT:

Says I’m not. Okay.

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LACI:

This is what you want when you want. Bad guy. He’s deceitful, but not easy. And he he will make a deal with the devil. He is. He’s wheeling and dealing the whole time till the very end. You can’t trust him.

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MATT:

And he’s. He is a bad guy in a.

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LACI:

In a very real.

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MATT:

Way. He’s a actual real person. Which is. I came into this planned. I’m the evil capitalist. He has this speech where he’s like, yeah, people in the global north basically need to buy Rolexes and diamond rings. This is how it happens. How do you think it happens? I’m just I’m the one who’s willing to look at what that actually looks like.

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MATT:

True. And if you’re willing to do that, you can make money.

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LACI:

You make money, but you still live in a freaking high office with a bunch of guys watching yourself torture people. What life are you living? Sure. But yeah.

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MATT:

And in the end.

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LACI:

I made you this town. Yeah.

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MATT:

In the end, he thinks that actually might persuade them. I brought you the modern world. And you, you’re you ingrates. You own a Loompas.

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LACI:

He’s mean. That bad guy.

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MATT:

Bad guy. So, yeah, this movie’s a delight. It should have gotten. We have a we did a bonus video, which you can watch on our TikTok load bearing dot beams, our Instagram load bearing beams, our Twitter load bearing pod.

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LACI:

That one’s juicy.

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MATT:

And we’ll also put it on YouTube, where this is a movie that I so rarely think that should have gotten a sequel. I rarely think, and I think so many movies got sequels that shouldn’t have gotten sequels right.

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LACI:

This is a movie. Let it die. Leave it alone. But this one.

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MATT:

This is a movie that had potential for a sequel because you have two characters who are very flexible but have strong, dynamic, strong chemistry with each other, and they could easily just go deal with other situations or things left unresolved in this movie could come back and they would have to deal with this.

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LACI:

I truly want to see him open the restaurant. I just want to see him try to be normal. I think he deserves his John Wick arc, where he just gets to do the regular life, and I think he could succeed at it. He seems like a principled man. They’ll pull him back in.

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MATT:

They’ll pull him back in, and also he’ll find out this is much harder than I thought it would be. Restaurant business is crazy hard. Got a bounty hunt again?

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LACI:

No, I don’t think so. I think he’s behind these. I think he’d be great at it.

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MATT:

I love bounty hunter movies also, and I like how low stakes this is.

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LACI:

Well, yeah, there’s some issue. Some rich kid. Yeah, but that’s what’s interesting is that they, they, they all of a sudden drop you into a world where it’s all stakes. It’s so it’s such a good idea to set it in something so real. And it is feels it feels comic book evil. Because this is comic book evil. It’s just real.

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MATT:

It’s just real. And William Scott is this rich kid from America, like being basically a tourist. Yeah, but thinking like, I can survive down here and doing an okay job of it, like his dad probably is right to be like, well, if I were the dad, I too would be like, no, we need to get my son the fuck out of there.

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MATT:

He’s going to get killed.

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LACI:

That’s not why he wanted to get in.

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MATT:

My I know he’s not. I know, but it’s a reasonable thing to think.

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LACI:

Yeah, the it’s a believable abduction reason, even though it just turns out. No, you’re just training one capitalist evil piece of shit for another one.

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MATT:

So,

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LACI:

Which you would you you can assume that’s probably why he is thriving in this environment. He’s his dad. You mean, you know, he came up in this really hard world, he gets hit and doesn’t flinch. And you don’t expect that from a rich kid, because there’s a couple times where he’s kind of a weenie. But it’s the rock fucking hitting you.

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LACI:

But then his dad slaps a shit on my. Then he doesn’t fuck. You can just tell it’s happened so many times.

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MATT:

Yeah. So you have here this movie we’ve now done two movies to begin their career that I think we’re pretty strong and we are now going to see the flailing that happens over the next half decade. Although Shawn Williams got in the Rock will be in another movie together in two years, Southland Tales or three years Southland Tales, directed by Richard Kelly of Donnie Darko, the movie that, basically put him in permanent movie jail because it was so weird and strange.

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MATT:

I have never seen it. I will be watching.

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LACI:

Such a cult following, though.

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MATT:

But, I think Southland Tales is like, so weird that almost nobody claimed it. It’s like, so plotless, so formless. It’s just.

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LACI:

A dream.

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MATT:

I’m looking forward to watching it. Yeah. And I know it’s about the Iraq war somehow. I don’t know, I’m excited to watch it, but the rock, like, tries things like he has his Walking Tall remake and then he gets kind of stuck in a family movie jail for a while, like, escape from which mountain and the game plan and Tooth Fairy, which we’re going to cover next week.

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MATT:

And he pulls out of that by joining the passenger franchise. But right here, we’re in the good stuff. We’re in the good stuff with the rundown.

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MATT:

And.

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MATT:

Then.

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MATT:

All right. So there is, frustratingly little amount on this movie, on the production of this movie available, but I felt let’s situate ourselves with The Rock’s wrestling career because he’s still doing it. But balancing uncomfortably between the two worlds.

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LACI:

I like this, this, route of going through the history, showing me his parallel universes, because that was my assumption, is that you’re never really out of Vince, Vince McMahon’s wrestling, maybe other people’s.

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MATT:

You kind of never are.

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LACI:

You kind of always. Oh, whatever you have to him. And he seems like the kind of person that’s going to manipulate you to give him something, even if that thing is dangerous and bad for your body.

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MATT:

Yeah. The longest he ever got out was 2004 to 2011. He wasn’t there at all.

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LACI:

He is John Wick.

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MATT:

I think you were used.

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LACI:

He just wants a rest. Right. Okay. I’m sorry.

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MATT:

Go after that. He would make he would return a lot. I think he only had 1 or 2 actual matches. Right. But he would, like, do surprise appearances, hit his move on one person, cut a promo and leave.

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LACI:

As a heel. Still has stayed heel right?

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MATT:

Usually as a face. And a lot of it involving his cousin Roman Reigns to who was with the company was struggling in an early rocky Miyavi away to get him. Roman Reigns over with the crowd. So they’re like, well, we’ll bring in his cousin, who the audience loves. Yeah.

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LACI:

I don’t know how wrong you were about.

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MATT:

Me, but the Rock would come in and be like, you all love my cousin, and the crowd would start booing the Rock to.

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LACI:

We should come in and be like, fuck this little cousin and see if was Versicolor and Lacey.

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MATT:

As a non wrestling person, Quinn probably even here. Guess how did they finally end up getting Roman Reigns, the new guy with the crowd?

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LACI:

He turned heel.

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MATT:

Yeah, they did the exact same thing with the Rock and suddenly everyone loved him and he’s a great villain. So he took time off from wrestling to film The Scorpion King, and then returned to WWF for the duration of 2001 and most of 2002. During this time, he had one of his most famous feuds with Hulk Hogan.

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LACI:

Who was doing very interesting things to his facial hair at the time.

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MATT:

Very interesting, very interesting. He had returned to WWF for the first time in almost a decade, but in their feud, Hogan was the bad guy and Rock was the good guy. But at their WrestleMania match and you can watch it, it’s very fascinating to watch. The crowd is totally on Hogan side, and it is clearly disorienting.

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MATT:

The two wrestlers who kind of don’t know how to play this. Oh, and I was thinking maybe it’s like.

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LACI:

She’s made out.

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MATT:

That is what that is a way to, to do to to sort of neutralize it.

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LACI:

And then bring McMahon in. And then you got to try tongue situation in there. You really can’t get anything in there.

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MATT:

But it was a different time.

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LACI:

Yeah. Okay. Okay. As a Patreon we should watch this match and then talk.

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MATT:

Yes, yes, I want to do a commentary on it.

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LACI:

Oh I like that.

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MATT:

The, the the only thing is like with wrestling, the narrative, the fun narrative of like, these guys didn’t know and so they had to improv in the ring how to suddenly change, change everything. And then the hardcore fans will be like, no, they knew it. It was all scripted. They knew the crowd was going to be on the inside.

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MATT:

So they get.

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LACI:

Credit for your thinking on your feet.

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MATT:

Because wrestling is like, because it’s all a con. Yeah. If you the bigger a fan you are, the more cynical you become and you’re. And the more you say everything is a con, everything is a work. Everything is a grift. If you think anything is real, you’re the sucker.

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LACI:

The fucking fans are so cucked. They’re just like, no, we didn’t have an impact. No, we didn’t know you knew we were ahead. You were five steps ahead. We suck, we suck, we suck. We suck. That’s what they really want to be doing.

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MATT:

Yeah. So this this, is one of his most famous matches. Afterward, Hogan turned face, became a good guy, and he and Rock teamed up. But this was kind of the beginning of the decline of crowds, support for the Rock, because the crowd could sense he was on his way out of wrestling.

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LACI:

That’s always enjoy what you have.

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MATT:

Well, it’s the chip on the shoulder of the wrestling fan is. Yeah, this is an enormously popular thing. It makes so much money and we are treated with so much disrespect by the mainstream.

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LACI:

Lamestream true ish. He should at least be out there saying sweet things about the fans if he’s going to leave. Not that he’s not, but is he right?

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MATT:

And well.

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LACI:

It’s like a person who becomes famous in a genre movie by just happenstance. And then they, you know, shoot off into into fandom never to make a genre movie again or famous landing, you know, it’s like, come on, man, pay your dues.

00:18:35:01 – 00:18:50:12

MATT:

Or, you know, an indie rock band that signs to a major label and is like, I know you’re going to forget where you came from so they can see it happening. And it’s never like he can’t take to the mic and say, like, I love you all so much, and I love wrestling because they could see that’s not going to matter to you one day.

00:18:50:13 – 00:18:51:18

MATT:

Yeah, yeah.

00:18:51:20 – 00:19:06:15

LACI:

I was like, well, what does that look like? How does an indie rock band make sure to stay true to their roots? What do they do, like make sure their ticket sales are low so they’re like fan base from before could afford to go to where they are, make sure they play small places so that their fans can get there.

00:19:06:18 – 00:19:16:07

LACI:

Or is it that they put their hand out and help up another indie artist? What does it look like to you and it just quickly or any of those it.

00:19:16:09 – 00:19:22:16

MATT:

Those are all good things, but I think there’s kind of nothing you can do. If you signed to a major label then that’s it.

00:19:22:17 – 00:19:34:14

LACI:

Okay, so then what’s the fucking right, I got you, you just can’t have it all. That’s the bottom line. You’re giving one because I was going to say, well, did he maybe help John Cena break into the movies? But I’m like, wait, no, they went like that. Then you just take it. Another thing that they.

00:19:34:14 – 00:19:35:16

MATT:

Like.

00:19:35:18 – 00:19:37:08

LACI:

Never mind.

00:19:37:10 – 00:19:49:00

MATT:

And and yeah, that’s an interesting point you raised. Like wouldn’t this help mainstream acceptance of wrestling? No. Creates. It solidifies that wall between the two I.

00:19:49:03 – 00:20:12:04

LACI:

Got to see. But I think the Rock was smart in his first couple of movies. The ones I’ve seen so far, he’s using wrestling moves even in this, like dynamite. I can’t believe there’s that word. Fighting scene between him and the Brazilian. Like tree swinging, jiu jitsu, whatever that is. It’s amazing. He he’s, like, believable.

00:20:12:04 – 00:20:29:20

LACI:

I don’t know how much of that is a stunt double. It looks amazing, but there’s still wrestling in it, and there’s some you can’t take you to. Wrestling out of the rock. You see the rock you think wrestling in. And if he does a good job back to you. You’re like oh, oh, oh you doing both things. But I don’t know I don’t I don’t buy that.

00:20:30:00 – 00:20:39:00

LACI:

I think these breakthrough stars opened little peepholes into maybe it’s not so bad in here. Maybe I’ll go watch some wrestling.

00:20:39:01 – 00:20:39:17

MATT:

I don’t know, I.

00:20:39:17 – 00:20:40:13

LACI:

Mean, I’m right.

00:20:40:17 – 00:20:43:19

MATT:

Here and we all know that when you say that, it’s because I need.

00:20:43:19 – 00:20:44:16

LACI:

A shirt that says it.

00:20:44:16 – 00:20:55:12

MATT:

Maybe it’s because you definitely are, but, I mean, what do you think that because people have seen Guardians of the Galaxy, more people have watched wrestling because Batista I’m more interested. All right. Yeah, because.

00:20:55:12 – 00:21:16:00

LACI:

I don’t feel completely left out. That’s the. It’s just like comic books for me. Wrestling seems like such a long story. It’s like it’s it’s like a fucking, soap operas. Where do I jump into Days of Our Lives? They’ve. Oh, it’s like five generations in at this point, I will. I’m not part of that club. I didn’t jump in when I was supposed to.

00:21:16:05 – 00:21:17:13

MATT:

Is it is difficult.

00:21:17:14 – 00:21:25:18

LACI:

And so if I’ve got an entry point, it’s a rock and I’ve got maybe some documentaries I can watch kind of get a little sped up.

00:21:25:20 – 00:21:46:01

MATT:

It’s just I have lots of those. Yeah. They have lots of those. They and it’s still true but I know at the time there will be things like the, like the WWF show on the USA network gets this rating. It makes like it has like twice as many viewers as Lapham Nikita. But you can see what left him.

00:21:46:01 – 00:22:04:03

MATT:

Nikita charges for an ad, and it’s like 90% of what the WWF charges. So it’s like the the in all the ways that count it make it good ratings. But the ad buyers won’t pay for commercials on wrestling because it’s seen as lower class. So that’s there’s also that weird like class element to wrestling.

00:22:04:03 – 00:22:12:04

LACI:

So there’s just no way to really pay wrestlers what they should be getting paid is what they would like you to think the t shirt tails maybe.

00:22:12:06 – 00:22:20:07

MATT:

But they’re, they’re I’m just sort of talking about perception of it even as this moneymaking endeavor they’re like, but then it doesn’t count the way it makes money.

00:22:20:09 – 00:22:21:13

LACI:

I think that’s rude.

00:22:21:16 – 00:22:21:23

MATT:

It is.

00:22:22:02 – 00:22:24:03

LACI:

I think we’re getting good word out.

00:22:24:05 – 00:22:24:21

MATT:

Yeah, I think I’m.

00:22:24:21 – 00:22:25:18

LACI:

Turning.

00:22:25:20 – 00:22:26:04

MATT:

A lot of.

00:22:26:06 – 00:22:37:02

LACI:

I will never watch it because I don’t like it, but I do respect it and I didn’t. I can’t say I respected it before and and just understanding and learning about it makes you respect it.

00:22:37:04 – 00:23:00:05

MATT:

So later in 2002, the Rock was going to be leaving for an extended hiatus, and he was, in charge. He was part of a program of building up a new wrestler, Brock Lesnar, WWF. At this point, it changed its name to WWE, and at SummerSlam 2002, which is the company’s second biggest show of the year, the Rock was going to be losing his championship to Brock Lesnar.

00:23:00:05 – 00:23:06:11

LACI:

And here that you got in this picture. Yeah, he looks so nondescript. I could I could fall asleep.

00:23:06:12 – 00:23:35:04

MATT:

His thing is he’s giant and mean. Oh, and how tall we talking. He’s I don’t I don’t know okay. And he was in the in their feud. He was the bad guy and Rock was the good guy. But the crowd was totally on Lesnar’s side. And so when after Lesnar wins, the program goes off the air. So to the live crowd now Rock, who’s going to be leaving for an indefinite amount of time, gets on the mic to like, talk to the fans.

00:23:35:10 – 00:23:55:22

MATT:

And he tries to do all his things. He would always say when he arrived in a town, he would go, finally, the Rock has come back to Minneapolis or whatever, and they go fucking nuts and so he goes, finally, the Rock has come back and they’re just booing him. So he’s just like, it doesn’t matter where the Rock has come back to.

00:23:56:00 – 00:24:15:11

MATT:

And then finally he’s like, they won’t let him finish. So he’s just like, all right, that’s that. Fuck y’all. That’s what he says. He doesn’t say fuck y’all. He says, I think he said something like, sing a long time with the Rock is over. And he leaves and that’s the he’s he’s now gone for, a pretty good stretch where he goes to film the movie Eldorado, later retitled The Rundown.

00:24:15:12 – 00:24:18:04

LACI:

Oh, I was like, but that didn’t happen. All right.

00:24:18:06 – 00:24:34:21

MATT:

So again, not much information about this movie available out there. So we’ll just talk about the people who made it. Peter Berg is the director. Peter Berg is also an actor. He is in this movie as the guy who gives the rock his like help shows the rock into the club at the beginning of the movie, and he’s like, that’s where the football players are.

00:24:34:22 – 00:24:35:11

LACI:

You.

00:24:35:13 – 00:24:41:02

MATT:

You’ll see this guy pop up in movies from time to time. He had directed a movie called Very Bad News with Christian Slater.

00:24:41:03 – 00:24:42:13

LACI:

That was very bad things.

00:24:42:15 – 00:24:45:19

MATT:

Very bad things. Sorry. The late 90s.

00:24:45:19 – 00:24:48:04

LACI:

Yeah, that’s a very that’s a as a cult following.

00:24:48:04 – 00:24:48:20

MATT:

Oh yes.

00:24:48:20 – 00:24:55:19

LACI:

It does. It’s a good movie okay. It’s blistering. It’s off the wall. Can’t you read that song.

00:24:55:22 – 00:25:18:13

MATT:

Those were things that were just coming out of your head. I was like, wow, Lacey. This was his second movie. He would go on to direct Friday Night Lights and turn that into a TV show. He directed Hancock battleship, and mostly he makes kind of reactionary right wing movies with Mark Wahlberg, okay, Lone Survivor, Patriots Day, etc. but he did direct the first two episodes of The Leftovers, so he’s very important.

00:25:18:13 – 00:25:40:05

MATT:

Does I think he’s a decent director? Even his right wing movies with Mark Wahlberg, I think are pretty fun. He directed the Deepwater Horizon movie was actually really good. And, he said at the time to the Lehigh Valley Morning Call, quote, everyone knows that the Rock has the potential to be the next big action hero, but what surprised me about him is that he doesn’t take himself seriously.

00:25:40:07 – 00:26:00:12

MATT:

This movie could have been a dark, vicious action thriller, but the fact that it’s playful and funny is a tribute to the rock. He’s charming, charismatic, and very smart man said you said Peter Berg about the rock. Yeah. And Sean William Scott said of the Rock, I think, quote, I think the Rock saw The Rundown as a huge opportunity to take hold of the action genre.

00:26:00:12 – 00:26:15:06

MATT:

But he’s not a traditional action guy, is a self-deprecating sense of humor. It’s not like he came in and played this hard ass. He’s playing a flawed hero, someone you can actually identify with. End quote. Arnold Schwarzenegger was having lunch with the Rock during production of this movie.

00:26:15:06 – 00:26:18:07

LACI:

How big you think that meal is between the two of them?

00:26:18:07 – 00:26:24:21

MATT:

And not just just the whole chickens. Both of them. It’s huge. Yeah, yeah, a whole slaughterhouse had to be devoted.

00:26:24:21 – 00:26:26:01

LACI:

Head of lettuce.

00:26:26:03 – 00:26:38:20

MATT:

And, the rock, just spur of the moment, said, hey, do you want to make a cameo in the movie? What’s next up in the movie? Oh, it’s the club scene. So we’ll just. You just pass me in the hall and you’ll tell me. Have fun. You’re the new.

00:26:38:22 – 00:26:55:05

LACI:

Me. I do want to give praise to having a very realistic club scene. Club scenes are usually very insane and they’re not realistic in movies. They’re like angel wings and everyone’s like, glittered and flying. And this is just a club.

00:26:55:07 – 00:27:01:07

MATT:

It did seem like just a club, and it’s like a club where professional football players hang out and I love it. The mission is just. Yeah.

00:27:01:09 – 00:27:03:10

LACI:

Are those real professional football players?

00:27:03:12 – 00:27:12:12

MATT:

Oh, I didn’t look into that. Some of them, I mean, they’re not playing themselves. Sure, sure. And I think that even when they cut around, it’s like they’re playing for the, you know, the.

00:27:12:14 – 00:27:13:07

LACI:

The graphics.

00:27:13:07 – 00:27:33:04

MATT:

The the Jacksonville Gators or whatever. Fake. Oh okay. It is. But the movie which was supposed to film in Brazil, but Peter Berg got robbed in Brazil, so they decided to film in Hawaii instead. Produce on a budget of $85 million. Very expensive for a movie like this.

00:27:33:04 – 00:27:35:18

LACI:

A lot of set. I mean, there’s a lot of.

00:27:35:20 – 00:27:55:20

MATT:

Stuff, a lot of stuff, and they pay the whole little town. The Rock got $12.5 million. This movie only grossed $80 million worldwide. And if you watch the movie, it seems like they’re kind of teasing, like, we could do this forever more rundowns. But as we said in another bonus video, is just a terrible, terrible title. The Rundown.

00:27:55:23 – 00:27:57:06

MATT:

It’s bad.

00:27:57:08 – 00:28:00:13

LACI:

And then, as I said, it should have been called Brazil Nuts.

00:28:00:15 – 00:28:07:03

MATT:

That I think that’s actually better. Like, is Lethal Weapon a good title? Like, I mean, I guess.

00:28:07:03 – 00:28:07:16

LACI:

With you.

00:28:07:16 – 00:28:13:09

MATT:

Yeah, it’s like it’s not like it describes anything, but you can. It just sounds good.

00:28:13:10 – 00:28:35:05

LACI:

Rush hour also has a lethal Weapon feel, but I took me a while to, like, commit rush hour to work because it’s also a little too generic. Die hard is amazing because no one says. No one says you’re. You die hard. It’s just a battery, is it? No one’s. That person died. Ha! It’s so stupid. But the two words together sound, perfect.

00:28:35:09 – 00:28:40:12

MATT:

So I don’t know what else they could have done, but just the I think I think it’s one of the worst movie titles ever.

00:28:40:14 – 00:28:47:04

LACI:

It’s. I didn’t know what it meant, and there was a couple times in doing Looper, I’m like, when are we going to see a rundown happen?

00:28:47:04 – 00:28:48:11

MATT:

Is this but what is the run?

00:28:48:13 – 00:28:56:19

LACI:

That’s what I mean. I didn’t I didn’t know I was watching it, I didn’t know until the end where he’s like, he’s the hardest person I’ve ever had to run down. Oh. I wish you’d said that earlier.

00:28:56:23 – 00:29:03:17

MATT:

Did I do a search through the script of something they could? Is there anything we say in this movie that could be a title? It’s like, we’re not.

00:29:03:17 – 00:29:23:20

LACI:

We’re not gophers. We don’t live in this world. We don’t know what you guys call things. In fact, call it the gopher. That’s fucking interesting. That’s what he is. He’s a getter, right? And and like, gophers are kind of thought of as like little guys. She’s into, like, errands and he’s a big guy. That’s funny. It’s funny and the groaner to what he is I mean it’s what he is and this what he’s not.

00:29:23:22 – 00:29:31:06

MATT:

Or like, I think that’s the way you think about it. What does he do? Can we come up with a badass, catchy thing to describe what he does? Yeah, the Getter Collector.

00:29:31:11 – 00:29:52:04

LACI:

I almost had the good guy, but then it kind of describes too much his arc or like his character. And you don’t want to know that going in just yet. So did something about him be feeling conflicted or. Yeah, The Hitman, how did that work? It’s so generic, but it works. The retriever you well because golden retriever is now like kind of an insult.

00:29:52:09 – 00:29:54:06

LACI:

It’s an insult in the same.

00:29:54:06 – 00:29:56:19

MATT:

Way as like a sycophant to like.

00:29:56:21 – 00:30:12:22

LACI:

Like a boyfriend having golden retriever energy is both something lots of people might like, but they’re also kind of like the ultimate pick. Me. They’re a little too doting, and that works for some people and for others it doesn’t. So it just depends on who you are. But it can be an insult. Yeah.

00:30:12:22 – 00:30:15:14

MATT:

No fuck right off. Away for me. I don’t want any golden retriever.

00:30:15:14 – 00:30:18:03

LACI:

You’re not. You are more like a shitzu.

00:30:18:05 – 00:30:23:11

MATT:

I’m not talking about me. I don’t, I don’t, but I do not want a golden retriever near me. No. Oh, okay.

00:30:23:13 – 00:30:27:13

LACI:

But person or dog person. That’s why you.

00:30:27:18 – 00:30:30:05

MATT:

You got this here kitty cat.

00:30:30:05 – 00:30:31:15

LACI:

I don’t know what the fuck I am.

00:30:31:16 – 00:30:34:18

MATT:

You know, it’s the easiest way to get me to stop hanging out with you.

00:30:34:20 – 00:30:36:01

LACI:

Want to hang out with you?

00:30:36:03 – 00:30:51:05

MATT:

Yeah. Or more specifically, if we’re doing something fun for you to say, oh, this is fun. I know, Matt, I know, I know, you know, that’s cool. He was released as welcome to the jungle in the Rest of the world, which is funny because the Rock would one day make a movie called Jumanji Welcome to the jungle, but even that is a much better.

00:30:51:05 – 00:30:52:02

LACI:

Title, and Jungle.

00:30:52:02 – 00:31:01:12

MATT:

Cruise and Jungle Cruise as well. And Jungle Cruise is not good. But this movie did make me think maybe I should give. Yeah, we’re not currently scheduled to do Jungle Cruise, but maybe we.

00:31:01:14 – 00:31:02:08

LACI:

Maybe we’ll take a.

00:31:02:08 – 00:31:04:07

MATT:

Little as a Patreon, I don’t know.

00:31:04:08 – 00:31:11:02

LACI:

Well, I’ll. Yeah. You know, Christopher Walken, he’s doing he’s doing like, a Jon Voight here, but like one that I really enjoy.

00:31:11:02 – 00:31:13:03

MATT:

Watching a Jon Voight.

00:31:13:05 – 00:31:33:14

LACI:

Type villain. Am I saying the right Angelina Jolie Z? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Jon Voight makes me uncomfortable. And in Chris Hill, Christopher Walken always makes me feel like I want to hug him. So whenever he’s so ill, I. Oh, I like the tension because, like, you don’t have to convince me not to hug Jon Voight, but I want to hug that guy.

00:31:33:16 – 00:31:38:18

LACI:

And so when he’s being a shit like, oh, I don’t know what to do. Oh, wait. Okay.

00:31:38:20 – 00:31:42:04

MATT:

Interesting. Hugging Christopher Walken. Come on.

00:31:42:06 – 00:31:43:13

LACI:

He needs a hug.

00:31:43:15 – 00:32:04:09

MATT:

You know?

00:32:04:11 – 00:32:19:09

MATT:

Who?

00:32:19:11 – 00:32:31:10

MATT:

You know, so I really like this movie. I think if I have a critique of it, I think it’s. It has a few too many elements in it. Maybe. Yep. And I think you’re in agreement about this. I mean, the,

00:32:31:12 – 00:32:33:00

LACI:

I don’t get it.

00:32:33:02 – 00:32:38:15

MATT:

The sports stats and specifically that come up at the beginning of the movie, which are just a joke, it’s just fine.

00:32:38:15 – 00:32:55:18

LACI:

But he does it multiple times in this one scene that you think, okay, no, this is this guy has like a Terminator eyeball so he can zoom in and like, bring up facts because he’s he’s kind of like a machine, but then he’s got all this heart and he’s just a real soft person. So it’s like, what is it, man?

00:32:55:20 – 00:33:01:11

MATT:

I was not taking it as this is what, what what Beck actually sees.

00:33:01:13 – 00:33:09:20

LACI:

But doesn’t it? Yeah. I guess you have to watch a lot of football to totally get that. That’s what this references. Because to me it was Terminator reference in video game.

00:33:09:22 – 00:33:10:17

MATT:

Yeah.

00:33:10:18 – 00:33:26:22

LACI:

It felt it felt like he felt like he had like a, like a computer, a computer brain. Like what were they trying to prove here that he really studied up for this assignment or that he used to be a football player, because this is like a nod to his days in Miami, I don’t understand. So, like, who’s the jock on?

00:33:26:22 – 00:33:32:12

LACI:

Who’s this? A is this an inside joke or is it for everyone? Because I don’t get it.

00:33:32:14 – 00:33:34:02

MATT:

Yeah, yeah.

00:33:34:04 – 00:33:45:14

LACI:

Did he like, really read the the his boss gave him an envelope. Here’s your new job. I’m going to learn what all these people’s jersey numbers are, or I’m just really into football so I know this. Don’t worry, club owner. I don’t know what it is.

00:33:45:14 – 00:33:51:06

MATT:

So that that he is a football fan. We see. Yeah. Which I think is very funny because.

00:33:51:06 – 00:33:54:21

LACI:

I love that he doesn’t want to hurt them for the coming season. I love that.

00:33:54:21 – 00:34:09:09

MATT:

And and that I guess it is that he’s a big nerd because the movie opens with he he’s listening to the radio, and some guy on the read is talking about mushrooms, and he’s like the best type of mushroom is a girl. Lagasse okay, so.

00:34:09:10 – 00:34:11:14

LACI:

He’s a New Orleans native. Bam.

00:34:11:20 – 00:34:19:16

MATT:

And so and and the Rock as back of trying to call him back in this movie. Write that down in his little notebook. Fortuny mushroom.

00:34:19:16 – 00:34:21:13

LACI:

Because he’s going to have a restaurant.

00:34:21:13 – 00:34:36:14

MATT:

Yeah, I know, I think that’s but he’s a little nerd. He’s like, I need to make my plans. Remember, Portuguese mushroom? He’s kind of like Jamie Fox and Collateral, where he’s like, he’s just got big plans. This taxi driving job is is temporary. Peter Berg was also in that movie collateral. So how about that? How about it?

00:34:36:14 – 00:34:56:14

MATT:

But, we see Peter Berg come in and call back into the club. He’s like, this is an extremely private ritzy party. So he brings back into the club and he’s like, here’s the deal with the target. And they pass Arnold Schwarzenegger on the way. I’ve and Beck stares down at all the football players in the bar.

00:34:56:14 – 00:35:08:17

MATT:

These are all members of whatever team this is. And so we get the on screen 2002 ESPN graphics. The tell us, you know, what position they play with, what college they went to, their weight and height and fine.

00:35:08:17 – 00:35:26:14

LACI:

But the fact that he can rattle this off about each of them where they their weight, their height, where they went to college, that, that some sort of like photographic memory shit right there. So I just, I think it, it they needed to have not done it here or when it’s time now to go to the next job, this last job.

00:35:26:14 – 00:35:42:10

LACI:

I need to see that you studied up on this too. You zoom in to the bad guy fucking Fletcher. What? His name was, Hatcher. Hatcher. This wanted for this alias is this. And then rich guy your daddy won. Chicago trouble, but like. But no, I it’s gone.

00:35:42:10 – 00:35:59:07

MATT:

You’re right. I think this might be the bias of, like, Peter Berg who’s next? Movie is a football movie. And just. He loves sports. That too a sports fan. It’s not weird to know where everybody went to college and what their measurements are. Okay? Because, like, I can tell you, every football player where they went to school, I’m not good with hanging, but I know jersey numbers.

00:35:59:07 – 00:36:13:10

LACI:

I know you do. But that club owner didn’t. I mean, the climate we’re seeing, like he was going to describe who they were, but then he was like, I got this one. Like, so I guess it’s just a pissing match of that little moment. Let me show you how manly I am. I already know all the shit.

00:36:13:12 – 00:36:18:01

MATT:

Well, I like that the Peter Berg is the club guys like, I don’t care. I don’t like football, but.

00:36:18:06 – 00:36:18:11

LACI:

Like.

00:36:18:16 – 00:36:36:04

MATT:

He continues explaining, like when he went to Mississippi State, it’s like, why are you telling him this? He doesn’t care. But I like that the whole team is here. But the quarterback of the team, he throws like Brett Farve and he bets like Pete Rose. So he’s just he’s in deep with the loan shark and the Rock just has to go down there and collect from him.

00:36:36:06 – 00:36:46:20

MATT:

And so again I like how low stakes this is. Yeah. It’s like yeah it’s a good amount of money. But still this is like this is just this is just over like $50,000 over some gambling.

00:36:46:20 – 00:36:49:05

LACI:

He’s a gopher.

00:36:49:07 – 00:36:53:08

MATT:

And he goes down to this quarterback Brian Knapp. Miller.

00:36:53:09 – 00:37:10:17

LACI:

You know in fact this is interesting because you get the sense he probably never has to travel to do these gophers because you’re right. He’s just he’s just a go collect the money from a loan shark. You don’t loan all over the place right. You loan locally. He was really out of his element when he had to go to Brazil.

00:37:10:18 – 00:37:26:23

MATT:

Goes down to the quarterback Brian Knapp. Miller. And he’s like, hey, And the quarterback’s like, hey, man, I can’t get you a tryout. Sorry. Like, no, I’m not here for that. I’m here because you owe a lot of money, and the quarterback just kind of brushes him off. He’s like, look, here’s a G to get you started.

00:37:26:23 – 00:37:44:22

MATT:

Now get out of my face. The Rock’s like, well, that’s not going to work. I’m gonna need some collateral from you. I’m going to need your Super Bowl ring. But, look, just give me it under the table. You know, it’s fine. I won’t, I won’t embarrass you. And the guy’s like, no, fuck you. And so Beck walks away, and I like the like he’s not excited about this job he’s doing.

00:37:45:00 – 00:37:55:12

MATT:

And he can be he can be a little flustered. But he is an extremely capable, violent man who does not want to do that. He would rather just talk calmly with this guy.

00:37:55:12 – 00:38:19:13

LACI:

He’s reluctant. His very stature is imposing. So you come up on these people, they think you’re here to fuck them up, and then you’re gentle and they’re like, oh, I’m no, thank you. I will disrespect you. Yeah, you are a fucking sucker for you to even offer. This means you’re weak, so they don’t expect the flip. But he’s a very reluctant bad guy, physically imposing, beat them up guy.

00:38:19:14 – 00:38:21:08

LACI:

You don’t want to beat him up. He wants to cook them up.

00:38:21:09 – 00:38:34:16

MATT:

Yeah. So he calls his boss and he’s like, look, he’s not going to hand me over the ring. What do I do? You guys like, what do you you kick some ass, do the shit that you do. And he’s like, but listen, the team has a very legitimate shot at repeating this year. I don’t want to hurt them, which I love.

00:38:34:18 – 00:38:36:16

LACI:

Yeah, it’s $50,000. He’s good for.

00:38:36:18 – 00:38:40:17

MATT:

The the whole offensive line is there. And he’s like, I could actually really hurt the team.

00:38:40:20 – 00:38:45:16

LACI:

Like send a letter to his mom. She’ll fucking yell at him and get the 50,000, you know, do this.

00:38:45:16 – 00:39:02:13

MATT:

But the guy’s like, no, go kick some ass. So he does. He kick some ass. My favorite. He battles the whole football team. I hear parties when he takes the turntable from the DJ stand and smashes it into the guy’s face, which makes the music stop. Yes. And then the on screen stats for Beck. Come on. Yeah.

00:39:02:15 – 00:39:08:17

MATT:

And this is the rundown. But then in the parking lot, he gets, he gets shot with some beanbags.

00:39:08:18 – 00:39:30:02

LACI:

And then you’re like, wait, is this like a quirk of the boss of this little gang that the only non, lethal weapons here? Like you’re not allowed to use guns. In fact, you have to dislodge every gun that you find. You can’t use bullets. You got to use beanbags. Like they all have their little non-lethal tricks. It’s a very ethical little crime circle.

00:39:30:02 – 00:39:49:15

MATT:

And no, it’s not. Yes. It’s nice, it’s nice. That’s the nice. That’s you being nice for being nice. Yeah. Good shot with them beanbags. So make so it goes up to his boss and he’s like I got shot with beanbag so I don’t have the shit anymore. But, and his boss is like, oh, sorry. Once you called me, I thought you were going to push out on me, so I had to get somebody else.

00:39:49:15 – 00:40:06:17

MATT:

I had to get some backup, but, Yeah. And the rock is like, listen, I don’t want to do this anymore. You owe me a lot of money. Give me my money. And I want to leave and start my restaurant. Now. Come on. Claims. Well, a health and the guy is like, all right, fine, but you got to do one last job.

00:40:06:19 – 00:40:27:01

MATT:

Here’s what’s going on. My son is in the Amazon. He he’s in the city of El Dorado. That’s right. It’s real. El Dorado down in Brazil. Go down to El Dorado, please. And please do collect my son and return him. Walk my son through those doors and the slate will be wiped clean. You’ll get $250,000 seed money for your restaurant.

00:40:27:03 – 00:40:45:08

MATT:

Okay, good. The son, Travis. Sean, William Scott. He is a Stanford dropout who thought he could be a treasure hunter. But he got in trouble. And the gold mining town of El Dorado. And, I like this line. He’s like. So he pissed off the wrong person. And the guy says The Rock’s bosses. So I bought him some forgiveness.

00:40:45:08 – 00:40:51:11

MATT:

But if I don’t bring him back here to face the music, well, you know, I can’t carry a tune here.

00:40:51:16 – 00:40:53:07

LACI:

Like it worked for me in the moment, but now I’m.

00:40:53:07 – 00:41:11:21

MATT:

Like, yeah, it doesn’t mean anything, but I love one that’s so. That’s why I’m saying, like, I think the movie’s issue is that it’s playing with too many different genres because you have like kind of hard boiled crime. Yeah, you’re right. But people will say stuff like this, but then it’s also like a fun adventure movie. Yes. But then also a sort of western.

00:41:11:22 – 00:41:23:07

LACI:

We’ll also sort of Indiana. Yeah, yeah. I’m sorry, that’s an adventure movie. I’m sorry, but but I kept but the story, the plot literally is Star Wars the whole time. Like, that’s that’s the first thing that stood out to me.

00:41:23:13 – 00:41:25:17

MATT:

You said this to me. You want to explain this?

00:41:25:17 – 00:41:43:05

LACI:

I mean, it’s the reluctant hero who’s in it because it’s a job. He’s going to get paid. And then he finds himself into like a real moral situation where there are lives at stake. This is literal slave slavery. This is one man trying to take over this entire empire. And should he join up with literally the people called the rebels.

00:41:43:08 – 00:42:03:04

LACI:

And so, you know, he it’s it goes in there for a job, but he ends up doing a mission or two for because it’s the right thing to do. He’s Han Solo, that’s it. But it ended up being it that was like in the, I don’t know, first, that was in the beginning of the movie, and it grew into its very own thing.

00:42:03:04 – 00:42:05:11

LACI:

I didn’t have to think of it like that anymore. But anyway, yeah.

00:42:05:13 – 00:42:09:20

MATT:

And Star Wars. And when Lacy says this is like Star Wars, she means, oh, this sucks.

00:42:09:22 – 00:42:32:01

LACI:

I don’t no, no, no, I just meant as I know that, George Lucas picked a very classic, formula for his story. So me saying this is like Star Wars, I could say it for a thousand movies because it’s just a very, it’s just very usable. It’s just when when literally Rosario Dawson says we’re rebels. Like, okay, right.

00:42:32:03 – 00:42:50:02

LACI:

But but this is something this is very real. You see it? They’re sweaty. They’re dirty. That the they’re fucked up looking. The people who you see the pain on these people. It’s a really effective way in a lighthearted movie of giving you stakes. It’s I don’t think it’s easy to thread that needle. And he does it in a bunch of different ways.

00:42:50:04 – 00:42:57:22

MATT:

Well, you know, like Star Wars, this plane that the rock flies down in, he looks at the wings. He’s like is that duct tape. Everything’s kind of falling apart. All the equipment’s kind of shitty.

00:42:58:00 – 00:43:04:03

LACI:

Well you need to screw a guy in an airplane. Every, every every fucking person that drives a helicopter or a plane. One of these movies has to be weird.

00:43:04:05 – 00:43:21:23

MATT:

Yeah, if I’m a Scottish guy who ended up in El Dorado, Brazil, flying a little plane. Yeah, like, yeah, I’m going to be fucked up some, you know, because this is played by Ewan Bremner. Spud from Trainspotting. Maybe this literally is Spud after he got the $10,000. Sure. And this is where he went. I’m ignoring what happens in Trainspotting two.

00:43:21:23 – 00:43:34:04

MATT:

Got it. Where we just find out. Here’s what he did with that money. He bought lots of drugs, and it ruined his life. Spoiler alert, but, yeah, he’s funny. He’s like, oh, we can’t land. There’s bees on the grind. There’s buttes.

00:43:34:06 – 00:43:35:03

LACI:

Buttes.

00:43:35:05 – 00:43:39:17

MATT:

Boos, bees and the grind. And the rock says bees.

00:43:39:19 – 00:43:42:10

LACI:

It’s fucking cows. Buttes.

00:43:42:11 – 00:43:46:16

MATT:

Bulls. He’s saying bulls, not yes, he is. I walked up to.

00:43:46:16 – 00:43:47:21

LACI:

Big Longhorn.

00:43:47:21 – 00:43:51:01

MATT:

Buttes. That’s not what a butte is.

00:43:51:03 – 00:43:51:11

LACI:

Are you.

00:43:51:11 – 00:44:01:10

MATT:

Sure? Yeah. Butte is a geographical formation. So you’re saying that a bull’s horns are called moose? I thought a bull is called a butte. All right, let’s look at the the.

00:44:01:12 – 00:44:04:05

LACI:

Like a type of cow.

00:44:04:07 – 00:44:06:01

MATT:

A butte is a flat topped hill.

00:44:06:03 – 00:44:08:01

LACI:

Or cow.

00:44:08:02 – 00:44:11:23

MATT:

Butte. Cow. And you go become.

00:44:12:01 – 00:44:13:04

LACI:

History of the Butte coward.

00:44:13:04 – 00:44:20:03

MATT:

There history. True history of the butter guy. Missing the word butte.

00:44:20:05 – 00:44:21:11

LACI:

00:44:21:13 – 00:44:23:11

MATT:

There’s butte. There’s boots on the ground.

00:44:23:11 – 00:44:25:04

LACI:

You got me on this one.

00:44:25:06 – 00:44:52:07

MATT:

So, yeah, they arrive in El Dorado, full of surrounded by a jungle full of dangerous animals and also rebels in you. And rangers like you don’t wanna go into the jungle, dude. There’s anacondas. Stay away from the jungle. It’s very scary. Methinks he’ll be in that jungle, though. All seen it on this mining town. This mining concern run by Hatcher, who staffs this with indigenous Brazilians who he pays slave wages.

00:44:52:09 – 00:44:58:01

MATT:

And there’s a sign on the road that says El Dorado, but altered to say hell.

00:44:58:03 – 00:45:15:08

LACI:

And they did that across right away. I don’t totally understand what’s going on. But then, I mean, it doesn’t take long before I’m like, oh, oh, so good job. They’re explaining very complicated shit without a lot, not a lot of, exposition. And and I’m not confused the whole time.

00:45:15:10 – 00:45:31:23

MATT:

Yeah, there’s this movie, this screenplay is really good at doling out the exposition. Later, there’s a thing the Rock will say to Rosario Dawson. There’s like, yeah, I got pushed around a lot, and I pushed back, and eventually I pushed back on the wrong person. And that’s. And it’s like, that’s basically all you need to know about him.

00:45:32:00 – 00:45:38:14

LACI:

Well, right in in that it was really, you know, word got around that I was good at it. So I did it.

00:45:38:16 – 00:45:44:04

MATT:

So we meet Sean William Scott as Travis and Rosario Dawson as Mariana.

00:45:44:06 – 00:46:04:03

LACI:

And it seems like a romantic situation is happening, something like, oh, is there going to be a love interest in this movie? I didn’t know there was room for one. And it’s just Sean William Scott trying to get some favors off of off of this lady that he has befriended in this town. He he is rich, but he doesn’t have any stuff he needs.

00:46:04:08 – 00:46:21:11

MATT:

To borrow her boat. Her uncle’s boat. Uncle’s boat. Because he found the God who got it. The guy behind the moving curtain. And it’s just this priceless artifact. And he’s like, can you can you can I have your uncle’s boat to go get the gato? And she’s like, I’ll go with you and I’ll get the gato and we’ll split it 5050.

00:46:21:13 – 00:46:27:16

MATT:

He’s like, he’s still kind of doing his Sean William Scott thing on the steering thing, but it’s toned way down.

00:46:27:18 – 00:46:39:06

LACI:

He’s using his strength like his eyes aren’t squinty. Look at him. He looks handsome. He just has a normal face. And he has a an odd I mean, that’s a very distinctive face, but he’s handsome as shit, in a way that I’ve never found him.

00:46:39:06 – 00:46:45:14

MATT:

Handsome, but it’s just very interesting to watch. I watch him in this movie. Yeah, I’m just kind of a funny action guy.

00:46:45:19 – 00:46:56:07

LACI:

Right? Got to catches. It. Really feels like a mist. I mean, it’s not too late. Guys have so many years on them because the more grizzled you get, the more handsome you get for some fucking reason. So shiny. I’m Scott.

00:46:56:08 – 00:47:12:14

MATT:

We get a look at this mining place, this mining company. It really does look like hell on earth. We’ve got Harvey. Who is Christopher Walken? Second in command. He’s played by John Grease, the guy from, the freaking the show from White Lotus who killed, Jennifer Coolidge.

00:47:12:15 – 00:47:17:10

LACI:

Oh my God, oh, my God, did I. Oh, you killed me.

00:47:17:12 – 00:47:18:21

MATT:

The gays are trying to kill me.

00:47:18:21 – 00:47:23:21

LACI:

I can’t, I have an impression that’s mine. You have 100 of them can get off my dick.

00:47:23:23 – 00:47:43:21

MATT:

They asked the Rock, do you have a gun? He’s like, no, I don’t like guns, but deal with this character. He doesn’t like guns, doesn’t like. Finally, there’s this camp. It’s under constant surveillance. There’s. There’s armed. They’re armed to the gills, and they have whip, whip man. Big whip man. All right. But the rock he surveys is all the angles.

00:47:43:23 – 00:47:46:01

MATT:

And so we get our first look.

00:47:46:02 – 00:47:53:07

LACI:

We zoom in, then he’s got the fucking zoom brain again. It’s like, oh, where is the graphics? I don’t know about football.

00:47:53:09 – 00:48:12:18

MATT:

We get our first good look at Christopher Walken, and he’s just he’s like, tell them to dig hard. If only it was that simple. So he’s introduced to Mr. Beck. Do you know, do you know Travis? This man Travis and and Christopher Walken, like. Yeah. I let him stay in town because he wants to do some excavating.

00:48:12:18 – 00:48:16:04

MATT:

And I told him he could in exchange for 60% of whatever.

00:48:16:04 – 00:48:19:08

LACI:

He’s very fair wage, a very fair split.

00:48:19:10 – 00:48:33:13

MATT:

And what Christopher Walken says is, why do you have business with him? I love business, why come to me? He’s like, because when I go into a man’s house, I don’t like to open his refrigerator without asking first. So he’s like, come here, look at this. Look at this.

00:48:33:13 – 00:48:35:03

LACI:

Big hole in the ground.

00:48:35:03 – 00:48:40:00

MATT:

Shows him the big hole in the ground. All the men inside. Does this look like a refrigerator?

00:48:40:05 – 00:48:43:11

LACI:

If it is, it’s overrun with rodents.

00:48:43:13 – 00:48:58:17

MATT:

And he says no, it looks like it looks like hell. Well, you see how I see? Spellbinding opportunity. And he gives a great villain monologue like a fool about keeping your eye on the ball. It’s a man somewhere. And someone needs a Rolex watch. Well, how do you think they get it? They get it from here.

00:48:58:21 – 00:49:19:16

LACI:

And somehow Beck leaves with his question being answered, which is, okay, okay, I’m just going to go get that guy then. Well, but then he’s like, you can you can extricate him, but he owes me $10,000. So. But you don’t know that. You think the Rock’s going to go get him and get Travis to pay him? Like, oh, that’s what I thought.

00:49:19:18 – 00:49:20:22

LACI:

I thought they’d make a stop.

00:49:20:22 – 00:49:27:15

MATT:

You know? I took it as the Rock knows, this guy runs this town. I have to pay him tribute in order to conduct my own business.

00:49:27:16 – 00:49:43:18

LACI:

Sure, but this Travis guy’s rich. Let me just go get the money from him. That’s what I’m saying. It wasn’t totally clear that the Rock made the transaction. So, actually, I’m a little surprised when the rock goes to the next scene, goes to get Travis and just is like, it’s very clear he plans to go straight to the airplane.

00:49:43:18 – 00:50:00:20

LACI:

I’m like, oh, okay. Mr.. Good guy. Mr. straighten, by the man of his word, you aren’t going to pay the $10,000. That’s why all this is going to ensue. Hatcher is going to want his ten grand, which is so low stakes, I should have realized. But that’s not what it is.

00:50:00:21 – 00:50:21:14

MATT:

No. He goes, so he goes to the bar where Rosario Dawson works, and, and she’s like, You’re American. Yeah. Where are you from? Someplace that’s got bartenders, I kind of like that. There’s there’s that this knowing exchange about the Brazil nuts. You know, here we just call him nuts, but, Hey, Travis Walker, here you are.

00:50:21:16 – 00:50:26:11

MATT:

This is. This is one of many times he does the thing like, got two choices. Option A or option B.

00:50:26:12 – 00:50:28:01

LACI:

He really wants people to choose option.

00:50:28:01 – 00:50:32:22

MATT:

An option agents come quietly. Option B, kick the shit out of you because there’s no way.

00:50:32:22 – 00:50:42:23

LACI:

His boss was like, okay, here’s what you do when you’re go for a mine, you always opt for them to get out of your life. It’s like, no, this is just the moral code of this man because he is reluctant to be this this guy.

00:50:43:00 – 00:50:51:06

MATT:

Right. And John William Scott says, I’ll take option C, and option C is I try to fight you. I break a bottle on your head, but he just immediately gets his ass kicked.

00:50:51:08 – 00:50:56:03

LACI:

I really thought option C was going to be like, let me go get the gato. I’m going to split the money. You know? That’s what.

00:50:56:03 – 00:51:07:07

MATT:

It was. There’s a little bit too much like, shifting alliances and I’ll get the gato and I’ll share it with you. But no, I’ll betray you and run off with the Gato myself. But I’m going to send you the money. But don’t worry.

00:51:07:08 – 00:51:36:17

LACI:

I don’t know, I think I think it tracks it’s just a lot of people reacting to the situation they’re in with the leverage that they have. I think it is a little bit like. Oh, look, Rosario Dawson is actually the leader of the Rebel Alliance here, but it’s not that stupid, because if you want a person in the town that’s going to serve as your mole, you need her to be the most capable and the least the the person they least expect in her being beautiful doesn’t hurt.

00:51:36:17 – 00:51:39:02

LACI:

So I’m like, even this. I buy.

00:51:39:04 – 00:51:57:05

MATT:

So Christopher Walken and his goons, they show up in the bar just as Beck is about to leave with Travis. Yeah, they show off the bad guy show up, and Beck is like, but I paid you and and and Chris Rock in his hatchery. He’s like, unfortunately, I had my fingers crossed. So he’s not going to leave because he needs Travis to lead him to the Godot.

00:51:57:07 – 00:52:16:00

MATT:

And, the Rock now is like, well, I’m going to leave with my prisoner. Sorry. And this is just like a classic Western scenario. Yeah. Of like, I, you know, I’m taking him to be hanged, literally, like the first scene of Deadwood. I don’t even talk about of I’m facing a giant posse, but I, a righteous man, will do what is right.

00:52:16:02 – 00:52:26:19

MATT:

I’m going to take this man to Los Angeles for justice in the form of his dad punching him in the face. But he single handedly fights all of them off without a gun. It’s pretty cool.

00:52:26:21 – 00:52:34:21

LACI:

Yeah, and he really inconveniences them by taking the thing out of the things. When he grabs their guns. Now they’re going to have to bend over. Grab it. Go, go.

00:52:34:23 – 00:52:40:16

MATT:

That’s why heroes are always doing that. Why they’re always emptying the guns. Because it’s like now you’re creating more work for them. God damn it.

00:52:40:16 – 00:52:46:15

LACI:

I don’t think heroes are always doing that. This is this guy’s saying, no, they’re not. You’re talking about when people are reloading.

00:52:46:16 – 00:52:47:20

MATT:

Now, what are they sometimes.

00:52:47:20 – 00:52:48:11

LACI:

Sometimes they’re just.

00:52:48:11 – 00:52:50:00

MATT:

Like, I just saw this in something that’s.

00:52:50:01 – 00:52:50:14

LACI:

In John Wick.

00:52:50:17 – 00:52:51:20

MATT:

I think that’s probably.

00:52:51:20 – 00:53:01:18

LACI:

Yeah. Because it’s just like, okay, I can’t grab all these guns, but I also don’t want you guys grabbing them behind me and chase me. So let me at least like, unload a few. Yeah. And then grab the ones I can carry.

00:53:01:20 – 00:53:09:13

MATT:

If you’re interested in one man fighting a bunch of guys in a bar without without using guns, watch Scott Atkinson’s movie of Benjamin. Very fun. Just a little.

00:53:09:13 – 00:53:12:05

LACI:

Just for this one. This one’s.

00:53:12:05 – 00:53:13:08

MATT:

Good. Yeah, this one’s good too.

00:53:13:09 – 00:53:18:13

LACI:

Every fight scene is good and it doesn’t go on for too long which is always my complaint with action.

00:53:18:15 – 00:53:23:04

MATT:

So Guy takes out a whip and flicks it at the rock. But the rock just grabs that. Just grabs the whip for sure.

00:53:23:04 – 00:53:26:16

LACI:

There’s going to be an Indiana Jones joke. But he doesn’t have a gun.

00:53:26:18 – 00:53:43:23

MATT:

Like he can’t do the Jack do that joke. And so they just escape easily. And Christopher Walken is like dead already. They just don’t know in the Jeep. Sean Williams Scott is just like running his mouth. He’s like, dude, dude, you got to okay, coming to get the guy to with me. I’ll double it, I’ll quadruple it, I’ll double it and quadruple it.

00:53:44:04 – 00:53:51:15

MATT:

Come on man, come on man. No, you’re not going to listen to me, okay? I will grab the wheel and make us tumble down the mountain to our deaths button.

00:53:51:15 – 00:54:09:04

LACI:

And no, he’s just really confident. He’s like, I have fallen twice now down this thing on accident, so I do. Are you? I can do it. That’s my take. He’s like, no, we’re going right into the river where I need to get a bow and all this shit, like I’m. I just need to show this man that got tow and he will know that we need to stay.

00:54:09:09 – 00:54:14:03

MATT:

Okay? Yeah. So he’s always. He knows they are planning. He’s a good planner.

00:54:14:04 – 00:54:32:18

LACI:

Yeah. I mean, I think it every at every moment you realize. No, he he seems like a fumbling idiot. But he knows what to do next. And he’s he’s a huge jungle. But this whole time he’s known I need to get the car off the road here because right down there on that river and this part of the river is where I think it’s key that they were on the road first.

00:54:32:23 – 00:54:34:09

LACI:

It oriented him.

00:54:34:11 – 00:54:46:12

MATT:

So Travis manages to on handcuff himself, but then Beck easily catches up with him and Travis John Williams got does the what’s this where you’d like describe what this is.

00:54:46:14 – 00:55:01:00

LACI:

He’s just trying to do some misdirection long enough to like to like, get close enough to actually land a punch. And I’m sure this is just a skill he’s like, honed from having a very violent dad, which is like, that guy’s big, but I can be tricky.

00:55:01:01 – 00:55:02:00

MATT:

Tricky.

00:55:02:02 – 00:55:05:15

LACI:

He’s like, look at this thunder. And you just wiggle his leg and look at this lightning look.

00:55:05:18 – 00:55:08:14

MATT:

Lifting up a foot like, oh, am I going to kick you with this foot or.

00:55:08:14 – 00:55:14:06

LACI:

This foot? And then it’s just it’s just all a bunch of like where am I coming from so that I can get closer to you.

00:55:14:07 – 00:55:15:17

MATT:

Do you think this is funny?

00:55:15:19 – 00:55:16:08

LACI:

No.

00:55:16:11 – 00:55:16:18

MATT:

Okay.

00:55:16:23 – 00:55:34:23

LACI:

I don’t I don’t, and I don’t need it to be a bit, but I do I do like it the one time it works when he’s in that store with that other guy. Then. And then I like that. He’s like, whoa, it worked. And then you can tell he’s studied fighting in a book because then he just repeats what he sees, like foot, eyes, crotch, or, you know, whatever he does it.

00:55:34:23 – 00:55:43:22

LACI:

He’s he’s like, saying like, self-defense words out loud. So you just did these, like, I’ve been waiting to get this close for this reason. Ha ha ha. Oh, my God, that’s so.

00:55:43:22 – 00:55:45:06

MATT:

Nice for him. I finally got to do.

00:55:45:07 – 00:55:49:16

LACI:

I brained my way into this. I’ve been reading on this.

00:55:49:18 – 00:55:53:21

MATT:

Well, the rock just punches him in the face right? And many.

00:55:53:21 – 00:55:54:09

LACI:

Times.

00:55:54:09 – 00:56:12:14

MATT:

But I guess that’s the funny thing about Travis, guys, is he won’t be deterred. Nothing will actually stop him. So he just, like, jumps on top of the rock. Like whenever he gets. Whenever he gets the upper hand, it’s be like, I will be so annoying to you that I will win, or I will at least, you know, get slow you down right?

00:56:12:19 – 00:56:35:02

MATT:

Christopher Walken is so mad that they’ve gotten away, so he gives the tooth fairy speech. I think this is the best remembered thing from this movie. It’s like he’s explaining to all these, you know, like indigenous Brazilians who work for him. He’s he’s like, there are two men out in the jungle trying to steal from me. I feel like a little boy who’s lost his first tooth waiting for the tooth fairy to come.

00:56:35:04 – 00:56:48:06

MATT:

Only two evil burglars. Burglars crept into my window and snatched it before she could get it. Do you understand the concept of the tooth fairy? They have my tooth. I want it back.

00:56:48:08 – 00:56:51:23

LACI:

Did you notice that Mr. Grace here? He’s wearing a scorpion necklace.

00:56:52:01 – 00:56:54:08

MATT:

Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Spin off.

00:56:54:10 – 00:57:08:02

LACI:

Oh, hi. Okay. I did not expect to like this part, but now we’re in this. You know, they’re still walking through the jungle together. Who knows for what end, and.

00:57:08:04 – 00:57:24:15

LACI:

Shawn Michaels booth needs to. Needs to pee, and his hands are behind him. And this is an interesting thing because you don’t think it’s going to work, but he’s adamant. I will not pee on myself. Like, okay, so the rock would just be like, I don’t care. Pee on your side. Like who? You just pee on yourself.

00:57:24:15 – 00:57:41:11

LACI:

Who gives a shit? Like, I don’t know why he’s got to be so moved, but there is something about about Travis that Beck likes. Even though even if he doesn’t know he likes it yet. But there’s something about him where he’s like, okay, I’ll let you keep your fucking dignity. I don’t want to be a jerk. I don’t want this to be trauma versus your life.

00:57:41:15 – 00:57:47:13

LACI:

So he he agrees to unzip. And I’m just thinking, like, what an interesting.

00:57:47:15 – 00:57:48:19

MATT:

Ish dilemma.

00:57:48:20 – 00:58:09:04

LACI:

No, what an interesting like, like, mind power this man has over his dick that he’s so sure he’s going to be able to maneuver it up and out and over. And then once it’s out, how do you get it back in? I don’t so but so this is like just not very well thought out. But then it’s a very funny, convincing jumping around for him to get his dick out.

00:58:09:04 – 00:58:34:04

LACI:

He finally gets his dick out. I’m so relieved because I need to pee at this point. Two and then during all the commotion, the the unstoppable back gets gets a booby trap, apparently very common in the jungle. This does not surprise Travis at all. And now Travis still has his hands on his back, has his dick dangling out, I suppose, but has the upper hand for the first time.

00:58:34:06 – 00:58:38:02

LACI:

And, hilarity ensues.

00:58:38:02 – 00:58:39:01

MATT:

00:58:39:03 – 00:58:42:01

LACI:

Because he doesn’t have it for long. He also gets in a tricky trap.

00:58:42:03 – 00:58:56:13

MATT:

You know, he finds, he finds the handcuff keys, he uncuff himself, and he’s like, oh, and what’s this? Your little diary? What’s in this? And the rocks are like, don’t read it. No, it’s got mushrooms. And it just says, like, mushroom porcini is like a little marsala, a little house.

00:58:56:15 – 00:58:57:21

LACI:

A little man.

00:58:57:23 – 00:59:06:20

MATT:

And, and he’s making fun of him, but then he ends up in one of these things. So now they’re both hanging upside down.

00:59:06:22 – 00:59:26:10

LACI:

And it’s a like, a little sweet little synchronize swim swing thing. But but. Travis knows what to like. This is he’s gotten stuck in one. And again, he’s got like a stem brain. He’s a smart guy. Like, here’s what we got to do. I think. Right. Is he the one that says to put our our backs together and.

00:59:26:12 – 00:59:27:03

MATT:

Says, oh.

00:59:27:03 – 00:59:33:04

LACI:

Shit, fuck, I don’t know. They’re swinging in tandem. And then all of a sudden the monkeys and I did not expect this.

00:59:33:04 – 00:59:36:12

MATT:

To be funny with the monkey.

00:59:36:14 – 01:00:09:08

LACI:

He’s like, they’re humping you for because of asserting their dominance. He’s like, the rock is just really funny here. You’re just like, oh no, I don’t know what he’s doing. But like, there is something so very disturbing about the butts of these kinds of monkeys. I’m, I’m for sure thinking they’re going to put a butt in the Rock’s face and that was probably be, like, too graphic because those butts are, like, wet and shiny and, they look like labia anyway, so just, just just a lot of monkey dick that you don’t see is very classy.

01:00:09:11 – 01:00:23:17

MATT:

And apparently the Rock really did let a monkey fuck him. Okay? Like like his leg like to. It’s like, no, I won’t let a stunt person do it. I’ll do it. I’m man enough to get fucked. Okay? Citation needed. I don’t know if that’s true. I think I just read it on Wikipedia. I like it, but yeah, a bunch of these monkeys try to fuck them.

01:00:23:17 – 01:00:43:17

MATT:

And then the rebels show up and rescue them. And there’s the sequence where Charlene Scott is like, he’s like, don’t worry, don’t worry, okay? That’s their leader. You need to maintain constant eye contact with him. And I will speak Portuguese to them. And there’s some funny subtitle jokes where he is telling them, this guy I’m working with, he says that you suck and your mom’s ugly and that you.

01:00:43:17 – 01:00:45:17

LACI:

Why does he stare at me like this?

01:00:45:19 – 01:00:54:10

MATT:

It’s that actually staring at me. Is it a sign of disrespect? Their leader is Ernie Reyes Jr, who you might remember as a Kino from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles two.

01:00:54:10 – 01:00:56:05

LACI:

Okay, as he did look familiar.

01:00:56:05 – 01:00:57:15

MATT:

He is a trained martial artist.

01:00:57:15 – 01:00:59:00

LACI:

He was amazing.

01:00:59:02 – 01:01:12:17

MATT:

Here’s the body for Donatello in the first Ninja Turtles. And yeah, an actual, stunt man in martial arts performer. And he is the leader of this little gang of rebels. And so they’re going to have a little fight with the Rock.

01:01:12:17 – 01:01:15:08

LACI:

It’s not. But we think he is.

01:01:15:10 – 01:01:16:15

MATT:

But they do fight.

01:01:16:17 – 01:01:19:02

LACI:

But Rosario Dawson is the actual leader of the rebels.

01:01:19:02 – 01:01:20:10

MATT:

Oh, yes. Yes. Gotcha, gotcha.

01:01:20:10 – 01:01:23:10

LACI:

Oh, yeah. That is something you’d forget, isn’t it? Because it’s got.

01:01:23:10 – 01:01:47:03

MATT:

It. That’s on the next slide. So, they begin this extended fight where they’re doing, I guess Brazilian, Brazilian jiu jitsu. I’m not enough of a fight expertise, but yeah, it’s trapeze fight. And, Peter Burke said he was inspired by the fight from They Live between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David, where it just goes on and on and on forever and has so many movements to it.

01:01:47:05 – 01:01:53:23

MATT:

But eventually Rosario Dawson comes in and she’s just like, boys, boys, enough of that. Now they’re just sitting around the fire.

01:01:54:00 – 01:02:14:09

LACI:

Well, I think well, at first Beck is really getting his shit handed to him, and in the end, it’s funny because it’s just like another scene, just because he does not understand why they’re fighting. He’s trying to show some like, the opposite of dominance. And just like, give them all a chance. And then he’s like, all right, I’ve been flung enough.

01:02:14:09 – 01:02:31:18

LACI:

Now let me show you how I am fucking. I could kill a couple people. Yeah. And it the look of respect at the end of that scene is so interesting. I love it because you see him softening the, the the guy who’s fought like a, like a damn machine. He’s just a.

01:02:31:18 – 01:02:32:09

MATT:

God damn.

01:02:32:09 – 01:02:49:02

LACI:

It. That was good. And then they have this cute little back and forth who would win Ali or Muhammad and what? I mean, sorry, Tyson or Muhammad Ali. And it’s. I found it touching when he gives them the necklace like, no, this is the. You are truly a warrior.

01:02:49:05 – 01:02:49:15

MATT:

01:02:49:19 – 01:03:06:02

LACI:

I thought it was sweet. I mean, sweet thought they did a really good job of, like, these are people. These are people who are working their asses off to save all the rest of the people who can’t fight. And we’re bit by bit trying to make this harder for these capitalist murderers.

01:03:06:04 – 01:03:18:09

MATT:

Yeah. Which is why Rosario Dawson explains. That’s why she is, she has joined up with them $0.65 an hour. Mr.. Back, she says, which I believe is what Disney is going to be paying the workers to build the Abu Dhabi park and.

01:03:18:10 – 01:03:19:12

LACI:

Kidding or you.

01:03:19:16 – 01:03:22:04

MATT:

I mean it that’s that’s that’s what they.

01:03:22:06 – 01:03:23:23

LACI:

That’s the actual number.

01:03:24:01 – 01:03:45:01

MATT:

It might be a little bit more than that, but it’s there is a definition like a UN definition of slave wages. And it is something like that. Wow. So they have this weird conversation earlier. Tyson through translators, they have it, but then the goddamn, bad guy show up. Hatcher and Ko, but they shoot.

01:03:45:03 – 01:04:09:23

LACI:

Let us take a moment here to go to start thinking more about. Or it’s a build on our idea of, like, the sex, the sexless rock. He takes off his shirt and fucking looks great when he shirts off. I’m not into all that big muscle shit, but there’s just something about his makeup that I’m like, okay, okay, so that he can put sav on his cut, but like, why get the rock to take his shirt off next to Rosario Dawson, rub some shit and shit?

01:04:09:23 – 01:04:29:00

LACI:

She’s turned away and you’re thinking she’s gonna turn back and go, damn, you know, you think they’re setting up something, but nothing happen? I know, it’s just like it’s just a business partnership, and and it’s so that’s so lacking any sexual tension that I at one point think, okay, I guess, Travis is actually going to get the girl here.

01:04:29:00 – 01:04:44:12

LACI:

I enjoy that neither of them did that. It’s all just business. I like that I didn’t think this movie came out at a time where that was allowed. So good on you. But it’s like the movie’s trying, and then they’re in editing. They’re like, no, that didn’t.

01:04:44:17 – 01:04:51:21

MATT:

There’s weirdly no sexual attraction or chemistry between Rosario Dawson who. Yeah. Rock. Yes.

01:04:51:23 – 01:04:56:12

LACI:

Like, no, no, he’s just like a little pop up brother Bear. He’s Daniel Tiger.

01:04:56:14 – 01:04:58:22

MATT:

He’s Daniel like he’s just.

01:04:58:22 – 01:05:03:03

LACI:

In the neighborhood. There’s nothing there. I don’t get it.

01:05:03:05 – 01:05:24:13

MATT:

Yeah, yeah. Because, yeah, there is something nice about it not ending up with there’s no love triangle. But there’s a reason that, like, sexual chemistry, romance is in movies, which is, it’s a it is fun to see. It’s a major part of human experience. And when all these people with their hot bodies are all with each other all the time in these heightened situations, it is a natural thing to happen.

01:05:24:15 – 01:05:43:05

LACI:

I mean, there is literally two kisses on the cheek in this movie. Yeah, they even attempted again where Rosario was like, she’s the last one in the water from the sea, water from waterfall scene to come out of the water. And they do it kind of sexy. And she comes up and she’s in just like a shirt and it’s wet and it’s hot.

01:05:43:05 – 01:05:52:03

LACI:

And then it just right on to the. It’s like the they’re like, we’ve got some shots just in case. That’s what this movie is. And both times are like, wrong movie.

01:05:52:05 – 01:06:05:23

MATT:

There’s even a theme. I think we’re short. William Scott calls her to the rock. Says, my girl, you’re trying to get my. Oh, you’re trying to get my girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it’s like. But she doesn’t seem like your girl. And also he doesn’t seem like he wants her either. And I’m glad you pointed this out. Yes.

01:06:05:23 – 01:06:11:22

MATT:

It’s it is kind of. It is kind of strange. Not a no, not it’s not going to make you some movie bad. It’s not at all interesting.

01:06:12:00 – 01:06:25:14

LACI:

Just like, wow, there, there were all of the elements here. And you don’t even have to, like, make it into anything. She’s got a whole fucking city to rebuild. Like she doesn’t need a husband. But, well, awesome.

01:06:25:19 – 01:06:41:06

MATT:

Well, no, I don’t know. So they all escape and the three heroes escape in a boat. They go on a little jungle cruise. This is the. This is the the Indiana Jones section of the movie. That went on a lot longer in my memory, but it’s certain it’s kind of short.

01:06:41:08 – 01:06:55:15

LACI:

There’s a lot. This is one time where I’m like, okay, what is going on? There’s just a lot of staring at each other, like they’re all, I get it. They’re all three trying to figure each other out. Like, what is this angle? What are you doing? Who are you? Are you doing this? But it’s just said through, like her staring both of them down.

01:06:55:15 – 01:07:14:15

LACI:

Him. They’re all. It’s just if you watch it just for the staring from the boat and then into them walking after they get out of the boat. It’s like, this is really a lot of fucking stare. Just say something. And then finally, Rosario Dawson does and she’s like, why do you do this? It’s like, you could have said this on the boat.

01:07:14:17 – 01:07:31:11

MATT:

Why do you do this scene? He says, the thing I said earlier, but like I grew up in a rough place, got pushed, pushed back, standing in a room with the wrong people. You know, I’m just like you. And she’s like, no, you’re nothing like me, right? She’s an idealist. She believes in something. She’s. Yes, involved in a political cause.

01:07:31:15 – 01:07:43:21

LACI:

In fact, I think I think Travis is displaying how smart he is the whole time. And this is the first moment where I’m like, this guy’s fucking dumb. Back. What are you. How are you? Anything like her? Because she got gun. She go boom, boom. What the fuck?

01:07:43:22 – 01:07:45:02

MATT:

Really only knows what he knows.

01:07:45:02 – 01:07:54:23

LACI:

No, she’s already explained it. He’s already seen the Slade’s. He’s already met Hatcher. He already got the fucking talk for the refrigerator. Later she.

01:07:54:23 – 01:07:56:21

MATT:

I think to him he’s like, oh.

01:07:56:21 – 01:07:59:02

LACI:

We all go boom, boom,

01:07:59:04 – 01:07:59:12

MATT:

Yeah.

01:07:59:17 – 01:08:01:01

LACI:

Everyone that fights is bad.

01:08:01:04 – 01:08:21:07

MATT:

I think he accepts what Christopher Walken says about like, our world necessitates the existence of camps like these. And I’m not going to put my my head in the sand about it. This is basically what the Republican Party says. Like we are going to need to do things like have exploitation of labor. We’re going to have to need, to lock up kids in cages, have ice, go raid, elementary schools and stuff.

01:08:21:11 – 01:08:28:21

MATT:

And I only ask that you don’t be a goddamn pussy about it. And Beck is like, yes, I agree, but here he’s finding out, no, maybe I shouldn’t agree.

01:08:28:22 – 01:08:35:15

LACI:

But like, you already had the camp scene. You already got a necklace. That man died in front of your eyes, right after giving you the necklace. And you still don’t get it?

01:08:35:16 – 01:08:40:07

MATT:

It’s a slow evolution. This is your Han Solo arc that he is following.

01:08:40:08 – 01:08:43:04

LACI:

Fine, fine.

01:08:43:08 – 01:08:49:18

MATT:

They get the Gato, which is in a temple, an Indiana Jones temple, and it just goes on a little while.

01:08:49:18 – 01:08:51:20

LACI:

But this is where the movie drags a little for me.

01:08:51:21 – 01:09:05:06

MATT:

Yeah, me too. And it also like the temple, like, collapses. And it really seems like they’re stuck there forever. And then it just cuts in there around the fire later, like we did it. We got the thing. The thing? Yeah, the the idol.

01:09:05:08 – 01:09:08:21

LACI:

I love when people are paralyzed in movies, like comically.

01:09:08:21 – 01:09:10:08

MATT:

You know, just like move.

01:09:10:08 – 01:09:11:18

LACI:

Or that they’re forced to talk.

01:09:11:20 – 01:09:34:01

MATT:

We’re like that. Yeah. There was a monkey when I did my Jurassic Park rewatch in Fallen Kingdom, which I think is the best of the Jurassic World movies. This part where Chris Pratt gets paralyzed and he’s on the ground as lava is coming toward him, and it was like, that’s a good idea. That’s a good little let’s show us, raise the stakes, show us something new, not just like, oh, dinosaur!

01:09:34:01 – 01:09:34:22

MATT:

Oh, no.

01:09:34:23 – 01:09:52:21

LACI:

And I just like when when body parts come back to life like later than others. It’s like I can get my ass up and then I can like and like I can talk. So I’m just like, it’s just, of strain, of string of. It’s just your consciousness out loud because you can talk and that’s all you.

01:09:52:21 – 01:10:14:07

MATT:

Can do on the level. So Rosario Dawson, you know, she’s sitting around a fire with them and she’s like, oh yes, we have done we have won the movie. Great. We have the gato. We shall split the spoils to celebrate, eat some fruit and the other to eat some fruit. And then they start tripping balls. And we got paralyzed by their not just their heads expand and stuff.

01:10:14:07 – 01:10:16:04

MATT:

And then they both drop to the ground and they’re paralyzed.

01:10:16:04 – 01:10:18:09

LACI:

They just have Snapchat filters, right?

01:10:18:11 – 01:10:26:13

MATT:

And she’s like, I’m so sorry, but I got a oh, why does she do this though? She’s gonna she’s gonna like mail them their money.

01:10:26:15 – 01:10:46:23

LACI:

She needs to rebuild this town like that. These people have been suffering. They need medical care. They need they need actual facilities. These guys, they want the bad guys out to. They’re going to need money. Like she’s still trying to take care of El Dorado or whatever. So, yeah, she’s going to sell it on the black market, get the money and help her people.

01:10:47:01 – 01:10:51:12

MATT:

But she also tells John Williams, got like, I’m in a million year cut. Yes.

01:10:51:14 – 01:11:01:15

LACI:

But she because she doesn’t want Sean Williams to like, stop her from selling in a different way or going a different route. She’s the money then and now, and she doesn’t want to wait on him to do whatever he’s going to do. She wants to do it.

01:11:01:17 – 01:11:09:06

MATT:

So and but she’s like, hey, look, the fire will keep the bad animals away in the morning. You’re going to be on paralyzed. Just walk that way. You’ll there’s your airplane.

01:11:09:08 – 01:11:13:19

LACI:

All right. Well, she sticks to her word and gives them a look. Kiss. That’s nice.

01:11:13:21 – 01:11:21:11

MATT:

So they are paralyzed. It’s now the next morning they are still paralyzed. And, Oh, the monkeys for this is like. Yeah, it.

01:11:21:11 – 01:11:33:05

LACI:

Just happens to be exactly what we say. When something bothers our sun, we just get out of here, bug. Get out of here. Whatever. Get get out. Get out of your clouds. Out of your rain. Is this guy or monkey?

01:11:33:09 – 01:11:49:21

MATT:

So the rock is yelling all kinds of stuff at the monkeys and show him. Scott just keeps your finger. I hear monkey. Yeah, you hear monkey. But they regain their just in time before they can be raped by the monkeys. They regain their control and walk back up.

01:11:49:21 – 01:11:51:05

LACI:

He’s asserting his dominance.

01:11:51:08 – 01:12:08:13

MATT:

Sorry. Walk back over to you and Bremer and he’s like, duh. I heard Rosalia Dawson. She’s been tortured and captured. Oh, no. And they’re like, oh, well, shit, that sucks. No one’s like, oh, well, the rock. Oh heck.

01:12:08:15 – 01:12:13:21

LACI:

Rocks like I should. There goes that feeling again. That Han Solo feeling.

01:12:14:00 – 01:12:14:07

MATT:

Yeah.

01:12:14:07 – 01:12:16:14

LACI:

So he that Han duo.

01:12:16:15 – 01:12:34:23

MATT:

He handcuffs Travis to a post and he’s like, I’m going to go help our friend. And Travis is like, you can’t do it alone. You need my help. You even need his help. You need the you and Bremer’s help. And he’s like, don’t pull me into this. I got a bad knee. You see it? He’s like, okay, fine, I’ll uncuff you.

01:12:34:23 – 01:12:54:23

MATT:

And I know you’re going to betray me somehow, but I’m just going to have to have faith that you’ll help me in some way. So let’s go. This starts with them. Then they got the boots, which, Chekhov’s boots come back in the form of these balls. These boots. And there be you and Bremer playing the bagpipe to invade this town.

01:12:54:23 – 01:12:55:05

MATT:

So.

01:12:55:07 – 01:12:59:17

LACI:

Like, if you play the bagpipe and he’s like, celebrating the harvest, but less like.

01:12:59:17 – 01:13:13:15

MATT:

A walk too far, and Christopher walk in. Well, of course the rock has to do this thing where it gets into radio contact with Christopher Walken and he’s like, listen, I’m coming for you. So you have two options. After they leave town. Option B, I come fucking kill you, and.

01:13:13:17 – 01:13:19:15

LACI:

There goes your fucking benefit of surprise or whatever. I hate when people do that.

01:13:19:20 – 01:13:32:10

MATT:

So Christopher Walken is like, oh, lock down the town and they lock down the town. And this very much becomes like Commando where that island, that fortress island locks down. Brahim Schwarzenegger arrives anyway all by himself and kicks ass.

01:13:32:10 – 01:13:34:01

LACI:

Kicks it.

01:13:34:03 – 01:13:48:12

MATT:

And then there’s a stampede of cattle with their boots, which allows Travis and Beck to sneak in and they start kicking ass themselves. And I think this is pretty fun. I don’t think Peter Berg is a great action director. I think he is merely good. Okay,

01:13:48:14 – 01:13:49:06

LACI:

I enjoyed the.

01:13:49:06 – 01:13:50:05

MATT:

Scene. Yeah, I enjoy.

01:13:50:06 – 01:13:53:04

LACI:

I like, I like that the Scottish guy goes and sits down with that.

01:13:53:04 – 01:13:55:16

MATT:

Lady. Yeah, it’s kind of has a beer.

01:13:55:18 – 01:13:58:17

LACI:

It just kind of mellows you out for the whole thing, like. All right.

01:13:58:20 – 01:14:12:11

MATT:

I just, I guess I want it to be, like, a little more triumphant than it is, but, like, there’s things are closing in on the rock, and he starts, like, really becoming like, Will Graham and Hannibal, like, noticing all the things, doing all the mass, noticing all the gun barrels.

01:14:12:16 – 01:14:31:15

LACI:

That’s all the time. But only when Hatcher’s around. Or fucking football players for some reason. But I, I was dumbfounded that you’re going to put a big cross on someone’s face of a broken nose, like harness thing after the first fight scene. And no one in the entire movie is going to punch him in.

01:14:31:15 – 01:14:32:13

MATT:

Oh man. You.

01:14:32:13 – 01:14:38:23

LACI:

Oh, I am nervous the whole time for when it’s coming, cause I know it’s coming because I’ve had a broken nose before. I don’t do it, that it never.

01:14:38:23 – 01:14:45:01

MATT:

Happens. That is some bull bull shit. Butte shit. But he finally decides. Fuck it, I’m getting guns.

01:14:45:01 – 01:14:55:15

LACI:

Let me show you what happens when guns happen. I don’t I don’t cock like this ever. No, ever. I go, oh, and I go, oh, you know what I.

01:14:55:15 – 01:15:02:18

MATT:

Got, That’s what happens when I get guns. So there’s a lot of him being a cool cowboy and shooting people and walking away from explosions.

01:15:02:19 – 01:15:24:10

LACI:

I’m totally okay. Except for the when he walks in the explosion, I. The only thing like that’s so stupid. Except for that, I realize it was to juxtapose his walking from Sean. William starts Jarvis Travis from Travis’s like, oh, with the fire behind him. Like they do both separate instead of like get together. Yeah, because they’re still very separate.

01:15:24:10 – 01:15:24:17

LACI:

Matt.

01:15:24:18 – 01:15:25:11

MATT:

They are separate.

01:15:25:11 – 01:15:26:01

LACI:

They’re not friends.

01:15:26:01 – 01:15:37:04

MATT:

He does. Travis does, things his own way. He saves Rosario Dawson from John Grease and a giant water tower collapses onto him. But yeah, we should have seen the shot of the of the big water thing landing on his nose.

01:15:37:04 – 01:15:38:23

LACI:

On a nose.

01:15:39:01 – 01:15:55:18

MATT:

And the rock, the three whips men close in on him and it looks like they’re going to beat him, but Travis saves him by shooting one of them, and then he’s like, all right, walking away with the gato now. Yeah. And then Christopher Walken comes into the I’m gonna kill you, the Rock. But then Rosario Dawson, he’s got it.

01:15:55:20 – 01:16:05:18

LACI:

You’ve got. Well, she shoots his gun out or. Yeah, I don’t know. It’s just like you’ve got moves. Then that starts his negotiation and then I’m glad doesn’t go on for two too long because, like, just die.

01:16:05:18 – 01:16:21:15

MATT:

Yeah. So he starts now. All the rebels are just surrounding him and just just staring at him. It’s really good. And he’s like, I’m pumping the blood of the modern world into your backwood veins, you stinking ingrate, up a lump of morons! And one of them just shoots him.

01:16:21:20 – 01:16:30:15

LACI:

He gets shot twice in an undefined place, and he’s like, I like option A, and he starts walking away and then just. Oh, shit.

01:16:30:17 – 01:16:40:21

MATT:

Yeah. So like, it’s very mild, but like, I don’t know if the movie today would be this naked about this evil capitalist guy. Just. I’m a businessman here to exploit you.

01:16:40:21 – 01:16:42:01

LACI:

When did Blood Diamond come out?

01:16:42:05 – 01:16:43:08

MATT:

2007.

01:16:43:08 – 01:16:44:09

LACI:

And this is what.

01:16:44:11 – 01:16:49:04

MATT:

2003 exactly. Things changed.

01:16:49:06 – 01:16:53:05

LACI:

Oh, I don’t know. I thought it would. I thought it was anti blood. It’s called a blood type.

01:16:53:06 – 01:16:54:21

MATT:

It’s in favor of blood diamonds. It loves them.

01:16:55:00 – 01:16:56:13

LACI:

No, it’s not.

01:16:56:15 – 01:17:16:04

MATT:

So, Travis returns. They’re like, oh, man. Travis. Turns out he was a, holding out for himself. And he’s like, no surprise. I’m out for you. My museum here is the idol, and he gives it over to Mariano, who holds it up in triumph. And it really feels like the rock is going to let William Scott go.

01:17:16:04 – 01:17:18:07

MATT:

But he’s like, no, I got a job to do. This kind of.

01:17:18:07 – 01:17:21:03

LACI:

Thing, right? He’s a clean slate. That man needs a restaurant. Pepperoncini.

01:17:21:08 – 01:17:30:10

MATT:

Now, he could have told him what he was going to do, but instead he’s like, now we’re going to fly back for 35 hours with me making with you, thinking I’m delivering you to your dad to be killed or whatever.

01:17:30:12 – 01:17:49:01

LACI:

Wait, what are you talking he. No, he doesn’t know he’s going to help him. It’s not till he sees how his dad’s treating him that he changed his mind. But he brought the fruit. Yes, to put in food. It was. This is not something he put that in the forefront of his mind. Maybe he thought he’d get there and he’d see the dynamic.

01:17:49:01 – 01:17:58:11

LACI:

And maybe he’d need the fruit. Maybe. But there’s no way that was not something he figured out, right? That. No, Matt. No. Because just like you said, why would he not tell them? That’s mean.

01:17:58:12 – 01:17:58:22

MATT:

That is.

01:17:58:22 – 01:18:20:16

LACI:

Mean. So that’s not he’s not a mean guy. Fucking add it up, Matt. He wanted also he you see, the way he sees, like, this is a person who would hit not just at somebody with his arms tied behind his back, who can’t defend himself, but his own son with side like, this guy’s a man of honor in, in just doing things because they’re the right thing and he sees someone treat their kid like that.

01:18:20:21 – 01:18:26:17

LACI:

He just needed to see it. I’m right.

01:18:26:19 – 01:18:31:10

MATT:

I think that this is the one time where you are right, even though you said you’re right, but I just.

01:18:31:11 – 01:18:34:12

LACI:

I’m often right when I think I’m right. Often.

01:18:34:14 – 01:18:53:15

MATT:

You know, but you’ve pointed it out when you are right and you know you’re right. You say, wait, what do you say? Fuck. What do you say exactly? There’s two things you say I’m right and you’re Indians. What’s the other fucking thing? That’s the fucked. Well.

01:18:53:16 – 01:18:55:00

LACI:

Somebody is dyslexic.

01:18:55:02 – 01:19:16:00

MATT:

Objecting to how much you’ve been saying that because that means you’re mad at me. But what? We already talked about how mad we are at each other, so. Okay, we’re back at home. Mr. Walker’s house backhands him over through the door, just like they made the deal. The exchange is done. We now go our separate ways, and then the dad just punches his son in the face.

01:19:16:02 – 01:19:16:20

LACI:

I mean.

01:19:16:20 – 01:19:33:13

MATT:

And so because, like, you know what, pray, before I leave town in Brazil, I’m. I have the craziest custom. They eat fruit. Let’s toast our new arrangement with the eating of fruit. And I like the Mr. Walker. The Giants got to do this. Let’s just get this shit over with. Come on, boys, let’s go.

01:19:33:15 – 01:19:33:23

LACI:

Have some.

01:19:33:23 – 01:19:44:14

MATT:

Fruit. The guys like some fruit seeds. I don’t like big sweet. And then they start tripping balls, and then they all fall over paralyzed. So they go outside.

01:19:44:16 – 01:19:46:17

LACI:

He forgot to kiss them all.

01:19:46:19 – 01:20:04:16

MATT:

That’s a key element of it. They go outside. Travis is like, thanks for doing that, but I still hate you. I’m still mad at you. Now I’m going to kick your ass with my little thing. Oh, the foot is the foot. Come. Is this foot coming? Oh, I’m just kidding. Let’s go. And the last line of the movie is the Rock saying I’m going to kill him.

01:20:04:18 – 01:20:09:23

LACI:

See, that’s why you need another one. It’s going to kill him. I think I have a great time with the restaurant and the pepper genie in the casket.

01:20:09:23 – 01:20:28:10

MATT:

Cool.

01:20:28:12 – 01:20:32:22

MATT:

Our final thoughts and star ratings on The Rundown. I’m going to let Lizzie take this for.

01:20:32:22 – 01:20:50:22

LACI:

I give it a four. And it’s not based on directing or other characters, though. They were fine, and I probably would give them a 3.5 about being a full pitcher is probably a 3.5 movie, but because we going to be watching a lot of the rock, and I think this is probably the peak I needed to give him a four.

01:20:50:22 – 01:20:57:05

LACI:

Just I like him as a person. I know you can’t know everything. You know everything. He thought I knew everything. He wrong.

01:20:57:07 – 01:21:02:10

MATT:

For. All right. I gave it a four because I think it’s a fun ass movie. It is.

01:21:02:10 – 01:21:04:16

LACI:

Fun. Talking about it made it feel more fun.

01:21:04:18 – 01:21:16:13

MATT:

And it’s got a great top notch cast. Love Christopher Walken being just evil and delicious and love Rosario Dawson. She kicks ass. I think Sean William Scott never better than in this movie.

01:21:16:13 – 01:21:17:14

LACI:

Ever better.

01:21:17:16 – 01:21:20:03

MATT:

And the Rock might have never been better ever.

01:21:20:05 – 01:21:37:09

LACI:

Yeah, you’re right, two of the four, no matter what. I think I gave it a 3.5 on my mind because it was it is the like first half of the third act that that just starts to get slow. And it’s also when you realize they really are never going to bring these graphics back in. What the fuck were those?

01:21:37:15 – 01:21:50:08

LACI:

And you said just a few too, too many little things. But I think the fun and the chemistry and the trickiness of such a serious story being so well told with so few words deserves for.

01:21:50:10 – 01:21:59:12

MATT:

Yeah, it would keeps it from me. Rating it even higher is, I think that the part the drags which is the most Indiana Jones fetch quest pie.

01:21:59:12 – 01:22:01:10

LACI:

We don’t need it. Just get Dotto.

01:22:01:11 – 01:22:20:20

MATT:

Yes. And that is where it feels like one element too many in the soup of this being a, like a neo-western. Yeah, and a bounty hunter movie and, And a mafia. Yeah. Football. Yeah. One element too many, right? And I just wish the action were a little better. Little tighter.

01:22:21:02 – 01:22:24:12

LACI:

But you could tell all of them are doing their own shit. Well.

01:22:24:14 – 01:22:26:23

MATT:

Maybe we’re not listening to a lot of their own shit. Yeah, yeah.

01:22:26:23 – 01:22:29:04

LACI:

Yeah, there’s a few things only there. I today.

01:22:29:10 – 01:22:38:00

MATT:

But yeah, really delighted by this movie. And so I’m sure that the next movie we cover will be even better. The tooth fairy.

01:22:38:02 – 01:22:40:09

LACI:

Oh my God, I didn’t think of that.

01:22:40:11 – 01:22:45:11

MATT:

It’s all connected in this movie. Had a scorpion. They’re all going like Pixar. They have teasers, right?

01:22:45:17 – 01:22:55:12

LACI:

Wait, these aren’t teeth. These are the play the post teasers, the prizes, and a teaser of it’s after it’s a callback or, an Easter egg.

01:22:55:12 – 01:23:06:14

MATT:

It is because it’s an Easter. No, because time lazy God. Now you think time circle. Yeah. You think effects precede or proceed causes, you fucking moron. Tooth fairy, you know what you think about this movie?

01:23:06:14 – 01:23:18:08

LACI:

I don’t I what’s to know? Look at it. All I see is Hulk Hogan holding up two kids. Mister mom, wherever the fuck that movie are, Mr. Nanny, that’s it. Mister nanny. And or is he like, fucking John? But he’s, And he’s like, oh, I’m.

01:23:18:08 – 01:23:20:00

MATT:

With these kids.

01:23:20:01 – 01:23:21:21

LACI:

Fucking see John Cena. And he’s like, oh my God.

01:23:21:21 – 01:23:25:11

MATT:

Kids were oh, that’s all I say. It’s Dave Batiste, but okay.

01:23:25:12 – 01:23:26:01

LACI:

No, it’s.

01:23:26:01 – 01:23:46:17

MATT:

John now I, I think I smushed Tooth Fairy and the game plan together in my head. I know the Tooth fairy involves, like, magic, and he actually becomes the tooth fairy, though this isn’t just Santa Claus. This isn’t just like football player, like, accidentally adopts a girl and he’s like, oh, I have to change the title by like, tight ends.

01:23:46:19 – 01:23:50:12

LACI:

You don’t have to juxtapose those two things diaper and tight end.

01:23:50:14 – 01:24:04:01

MATT:

Sorry, guys. But we shall see. Yeah, I was excited to do this movie because it’s got a bad reputation and it’s plot seems insane. So that is next week. Episode 164 June 27th, 2025.

01:24:04:02 – 01:24:05:05

LACI:

David, remember this day.

01:24:05:07 – 01:24:05:19

MATT:

I want to tell.

01:24:05:19 – 01:24:07:07

LACI:

Everybody on my birthday.

01:24:07:09 – 01:24:10:06

MATT:

That we have a Patreon Patreon.com slash load.

01:24:10:06 – 01:24:13:09

LACI:

Bearing for my birthday. Could you sign up for the Patreon? Thank you!

01:24:13:12 – 01:24:19:12

MATT:

Great way to celebrate lazy who deserves all your celebration! Yay, mom! She deserves some of your celebration.

01:24:19:15 – 01:24:21:00

LACI:

What the fuck is wrong with you?

01:24:21:02 – 01:24:51:09

MATT:

So we have an episode about Total Recall. Me and neophyte reviews talking about that movie. Good juxtaposition with with the Rock, because that was Arnold Schwarzenegger in his capacity as producer of Total Recall, hiring Paul Verhoeven to direct the movie, something that the Rock has never done. I think it’s the single biggest difference between those two men is that Arnold, at the height of his power, said, I will give myself over to my director to be my boss.

01:24:51:09 – 01:25:11:12

MATT:

And the Rock has only worked with directors for whom he is the boss, of whom he is the boss. Yeah, but it seems like that might be changing because the next movie he’s working with, the next thing he’s doing is a Safdie Brothers movie. The people who made, Uncut Gems and seems like. But the point is, this is the rock lead in his career being like, things are going wrong for me now.

01:25:11:12 – 01:25:12:09

MATT:

I need to try somewhere.

01:25:12:12 – 01:25:13:11

LACI:

He heard our song.

01:25:13:14 – 01:25:29:00

MATT:

Maybe. Yeah, maybe. So, yeah. Summer of Rock continues all summer. We are on YouTube at load Bearing Beams pod. I’m on that box of matchsticks. Nine leases on letterbox. That load bearing lacy. My band is rural. At nine we do the music for the show, including the song You’re Kidding Right Now, including the Summer of Rock theme song.

01:25:29:00 – 01:25:32:00

MATT:

And you can find us wherever you find your muzak.

01:25:32:02 – 01:25:41:18

LACI:

Okay, I smell what you’re cooking, I love you, goodbyeeeeeeeeee.